I like the succinctness of it. Reminded me of "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants" as Michael Pollan says about dieting.
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What do you suggest as an alternative to food?
Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)
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Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)
#282I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…
No snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche
- "I didn't write it, I just had the idea"
- "I didn't implement it, I just made the prototype"
- "It wasn't my product, I just fixed some bugs with it"
- "I can't track everything in these implementation updates, I just work with what I am given"
- "I didn't collect the data, I just deal with what is in the dataset"
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which depends on ad revenue They're more tightly bound than that. They're dependent on Google Display Ads. Which really makes their whole diatribe that much more pathetic. Any media company that decided to traffic the ads themselves, from their own servers, and inline with their own content, would effectively be immune from ad blocking. > Ditching these deeply invasive products remains a good idea While still allow…
It’s odd that orgs like NYT don’t run their own ad services. I’m sure they have a dedicated department for ad sales for physical copies. They’re large enough that companies would work directly with them. And they would have at least some editorial control on what is displayed on their site.
Targeted ads based on extensive data harvesting are just soo much more juicy though.
Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)
#284I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…
There are many industries which are inherently hostile to users, insurance, betting, marketing, etc. If you ask people if they feel good about enabling the kind of things these companies tend to do, you probably won't get an answer. I don't think Meta is an outlier here nor are they the only one. Even across other industries you will find many questionable practices in usual operations. If pushing the boundaries of e…
The question is how did a social media company end up so shitty it is now compared/it's behavior equated to insurance companies? Insurance companies are required to control payout, and people expect that. The level of stuff Meta does is not required, nor do people think/realize it is as hostile to them as an insurance company.
In the past, people aspired to work at cool tech companies. Devs aren't lining up to work at insurance companies. I never worked in the industry I went to school for because the only jobs when I got out of school were for weapons. At this point I feel the same way about social media, I would never work at such a 'make the world as bad as you can get away with' industry.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a 90s teen growing up with Grunge and in a DYI punk scene, I remember my youth being a lot about authenticity, and it felt weird reading about how the 80s were all about money and fame and how selling out was ok. To me that sounded absolutely absurd and a freaking caricature, something out of "American Psycho". Today I was just discussing with a friend how we're perhaps even more materialistic and cut-throat...
Musicians used to not let their songs be used in commercials.
They also used to have income from selling records.
Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)
#286I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…
Doubtful someone from Meta would admit to anything.
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does the ad blocker prevent leaks of your information? I know it blocks a use of your information against you (targeted ads). And any external source is a potential leak (e.g. the kinds of things that CORS is supposed to reduce). But does an ad blocker specifically leak more, or just reduce the incentive to collect that information?
A full-featured ad blocker (uBlock Origin original, not the neutered Lite version that runs on Chrome now) will intercept requests at the network level and prevent your browser from requesting the advertisers' JavaScript code. Your browser not only won't show the ads, it won't run the code that was supposed to show them or even send a request to the advertisers' servers. This blocks most existing tracking methods. Th…
> A full-featured ad blocker (uBlock Origin original, not the neutered Lite version that runs on Chrome now) will intercept requests at the network level and prevent your browser from requesting the advertisers' JavaScript code.
You're trying to imply that ublock lite doesn't do that. It does, including javascript files. The full uBlock does more things to prevent tracking that lite cannot do. But "intercept requests at the network level" isn't one of those things.
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#288Always funny how nearly universally Meta employees are quiet and never defend their companies practices.. The silence says a lot.
Why would they say anything ? and how are they any different from Google employees, weapon manufacturer employees, 3 letter agency employees, etc?
Everything can be justified given enough money. There is no such thing as objective morality.
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The sad reality is that this behavior gets normalized in the name of making money. For employees it gets normalized at the first signal that your livelihood might be affected if you don't comply. As someone who's privacy conscious, it's an uphill battle to convince co-workers to actually follow laws instead of trying to find loopholes. I've worked at places who collect every possible data point and distributes it wil…
> behavior gets normalized in the name of making money If Pavlov's dog gets a big fat steak everytime it bites someone ...
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Give your WA contacts alternative contact method. Uninstall. Stop using WhatsApp.
Try having kids in Europe, everything they do is organized through WhatsApp group chats. I had to get a separate burner phone just for that.
You can create a work profile on Android and install Whatsapp in it, this way it won't have access to your main environment and contacts. For the f-droid loving crowd, try the Shelter app to set up the separate area.