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Re: "AI Will Replace All the Jobs " Is Just Tech Execs Doing Marketing

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Post by moi2388 » Thu, Jun 05, 2025, 3:07 PM UTC

fullshark wrote: post #26

moi2388 wrote: post #10

Of course AI will replace us. Just like the steam engine did, just like robots did, just like computers did. Oh, wait.

Cars replaced horses, cause they were clearly better at their job. Humans' primary labor value to society at large comes from their brains, and ability to do multiple physical tasks, some featuring precise movements, with little instruction/development. The idea that computers and general purpose robots cannot possibly replace humans is no longer outrageous to me. Especially if we are talking about a few key humans c…

“ The idea that computers and general purpose robots cannot possibly replace humans is no longer outrageous to me”

It’s not. My point is that already was the case. We already have computers, robots, automation, machines which are better than humans in any task you’ll give them. And they still don’t replace humans, because humans will do other things.

You will always only replace tasks, never people. The question isn’t man vs machine, it’s man and machine vs only machine.

Re: "AI Will Replace All the Jobs " Is Just Tech Execs Doing Marketing

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Post by rvz » Fri, Jun 06, 2025, 12:06 AM UTC

mjr00 wrote: post #272

rvz wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because at competent companies juniors and mid-level employees aren't just cranking out code, they're developing an understanding of the domain and system. So many companies like Microsoft, Meta, Salesforce and Google (who are actively using AI just did layoffs) are some how not 'competent companies' because they believe with AI they can do more with less engineers and employees? > This doesn't make any sense. I as…

> So many companies like Microsoft, Meta, Salesforce and Google (who are actively using AI just did layoffs) are some how not 'competent companies' because they believe with AI they can do more with less engineers and employees? Is there any evidence the layoffs are actually due to AI, or due to a hiring correction using AI as an excuse?

We both already know it's very obvious that the layoffs are due to them getting away with actually doing more with less using AI.

Evidently:

   1. After the layoffs that happned at Meta, it is reported that they are building (and using) AI coding agents to become even more efficient, same with Google. [0]

   2. Duolingo went all in and replaced their contract workers with AI. [1]

   3. Microsoft CEO says "up to 30% of the company’s code was written by AI" [0] then laid off 3% of workers (6K employees), including engineers. [2]

   4. Business Insider went "AI first" with 70% of employees using ChatGPT and then lays off 21% of their workers. [4]

   5. After Salesforce laid off 1,000 their workers in Feburary 2025, they now said that "the use of artificial intelligence tools internally has allowed it to hire fewer workers" and additionally said:

  "We view these as assistants, but they are going to allow us to have to hire less and hopefully make our existing folks more productive." [5]

The list goes on and on in 2025 alone and this further strengthens my whole point that companies will be doing more with less knowledge workers and these workers still have a lot more to lose, rather than gain if they don't use AI.

[0] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over...

[1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/duolingo-will-rep...

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2025/05/13/micros...

[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/11/01/ai-code-an...

[4] https://www.businessinsider.com/a-note-from-business-insider...

[5] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/salesforce-says-ai-reduced-hi...

Re: "AI Will Replace All the Jobs " Is Just Tech Execs Doing Marketing

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 06, 2025, 3:27 PM UTC

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #65

cj wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wanted to say maybe the 2nd pilot could double as a flight attendent if they're not needed full time in the cockpit. Still retains redundancy while saving the airline money. The problem with that is most skills need to be practiced. When you only need to use your skills unexpectedly in an emergency, that may not end well. Same applies to other fields where AI can do something 95% of the time, with human interventio…

> maybe the 2nd pilot could double as a flight attendent Have you ever managed people?

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Re: "AI Will Replace All the Jobs " Is Just Tech Execs Doing Marketing

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Post by kunzhi » Sat, Jun 07, 2025, 4:34 AM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #212

sumeno wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure they did, or at least the ones who survived did. Offshoring went from the thing that was going to kill the US Software Engineering industry to a fairly minor portion of it with US based engineers being even more in demand than they were before

You guys seem to underestimate how much traditional industry is tied in with offshoring. From retail to traditional banking to insurance, there are a shit ton of industries whose jobs are now in India and the Phillipines and not in the US or the EU.

Yeah, it’s pretty clear who knows anything basic about business and who has only spent time in tech.

Re: "AI Will Replace All the Jobs " Is Just Tech Execs Doing Marketing

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Post by mjr00 » Sat, Jun 07, 2025, 3:12 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #282

mjr00 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So many companies like Microsoft, Meta, Salesforce and Google (who are actively using AI just did layoffs) are some how not 'competent companies' because they believe with AI they can do more with less engineers and employees? Is there any evidence the layoffs are actually due to AI, or due to a hiring correction using AI as an excuse?

We both already know it's very obvious that the layoffs are due to them getting away with actually doing more with less using AI. Evidently: 1. After the layoffs that happned at Meta, it is reported that they are building (and using) AI coding agents to become even more efficient, same with Google. [0] 2. Duolingo went all in and replaced their contract workers with AI. [1] 3. Microsoft CEO says "up to 30% of the com…

You're falling for marketing pieces, there's been multiple discussions on HN from people working at these companies calling out that all of this as bullshit. Nobody's been replaced by AI.

I appreciate you citing sources, but all of those quotes are from CEOs pumping their stock prices with lies--which, at the moment, is the best known use of AI.