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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by esseph » Sun, Jun 01, 2025, 8:36 AM UTC

globie wrote: post #139

wmf wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDoS is distributed denial of service. It isn't coming from one server. It's now trivial to buy 100 Gbps or more of DDoS so sites would need 400G or more to simply eat it.

If you have a single server flooding spoofed traffic, it appears as a DDoS to the victim. It's at this point that the distinction between DoS/DDoS breaks down slightly. It is very much not "trivial" to buy 100Gbps+ of DDoS. I'm highly confident the majority of D/DoS attacks are from single servers, because it works. If you have a 10Gbit server and your target has 1Gbit (or you 1Gbit and them 100Mbit, it still happens…

Command and control is distributed and load balanced now.

Taking down a single endpoint that can issue commands no longer stops the attack and the attack is now going through multiple layers of DNS obscuration.

Architecture of a modern DDoS service looks much like any modern geographically distributed production application and network.

Attacks are getting quite sophisticated, and are extremely, extremely cheap.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by maeil » Wed, Jun 04, 2025, 7:33 AM UTC

globie wrote: post #280

maeil wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As in, don't you know these publicly traded companies are legally bound to extract profit without these silly notions of empathy or trust? Based on your first question, I think you might already know this, but just in case you don't: This is a myth. > The idea that choosing a 1% strategic internal investment over a 4.5% T-bill constitutes actionable "financial malpractice" or a breach of fiduciary duty leading to s…

A "Fiduciary responsibility to shareholders" means exactly what I said: "legally bound to extract profit without these silly notions of empathy or trust". The only notions of empathy or trust you see from publicly traded companies nowadays is the over-engineered calamity of ESG. If you have a single example of a moderately-adopted trend which demonstrates a genuine desire to do right by their society, or to build lon…

That entirely ignores the reality I displayed showing that such a thing does not exist by law in any meaningful way. Yes, the overwhelming majority of publicly held companies behaves this way. No, this is not because they're bound by any kind of law to do so, nor would they be at any legal risk if they were to behave differently.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Jun 04, 2025, 7:37 AM UTC

globie wrote: post #280

maeil wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As in, don't you know these publicly traded companies are legally bound to extract profit without these silly notions of empathy or trust? Based on your first question, I think you might already know this, but just in case you don't: This is a myth. > The idea that choosing a 1% strategic internal investment over a 4.5% T-bill constitutes actionable "financial malpractice" or a breach of fiduciary duty leading to s…

A "Fiduciary responsibility to shareholders" means exactly what I said: "legally bound to extract profit without these silly notions of empathy or trust". The only notions of empathy or trust you see from publicly traded companies nowadays is the over-engineered calamity of ESG. If you have a single example of a moderately-adopted trend which demonstrates a genuine desire to do right by their society, or to build lon…

> A "Fiduciary responsibility to shareholders" means exactly what I said: "legally bound to extract profit without these silly notions of empathy or trust".

You can define the term that way, but then it doesn't apply to anything that actually exists. Firms do have enforceable legal obligations to their shareholders, but that isn't one of them.

(OTOH, for a widely-held publicly-traded firm, the set of incentives facing management will encourage much the same behvior that that mythical obligation would require, but the mechanism is entirely different.)