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Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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If you’re not abusing it and are just using it like a normal user, you won’t hit the limit. As far as you’re concerned, nothing will change, so I’m not sure why you think this is bad for you.

You seem very confident I will not hit the limit. So presumably you know where the limits are? Where are they?

It’s all written in the blog post

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post #147

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I'm not going to argue about your interpretation of the word unlimited and wish that its use was either banned or strictly enforced in this (and similar) contexts. That said, until accountability is legislated and enforced, it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited. Just as marketing abuses the word, customers abuse the concept. That's especially true in a domain where processes can be automated a…

> it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited sure, but I am not abusing the unlimited plan. it is reasonable to assume that "unlimited" means that a normal user like myself will not run into limits.

The article claims that 95% of users won't be affected when enforcing the policy. Assuming the claim is true, not affecting 95% of users is pretty much the definition of not affecting normal users.

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Okay - this is amazing. I’m a happy paying Kagi user. Getting to apply almost all of my payment towards for cross-platform tokens as a bonus - wow. This will replace a chatGPT and Anthropic sub for most everyday users. Their assistant is better than bringing my own keys to a client for most use cases. Just wow.

I agree. I’m on the $10 professional plan and honestly if I’d received an email offering this for an extra $5 per month it would have been a no brainer for me. Please Kagi, don’t take too much of a haircut or let paying for this eat into the core search budget.

They have usage data and I'm sure they did the math. A few users will max this, but most won't touch it or only do a few requests a month. If it bumps their conversion rate it should be worth it. I hope!

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Yes, but don’t twist it: it’s VC money, greedy corporations and personal data exploitation that enabled all that. Not those who came to expect expensive services for free.

People like free and the “greedy corporations” found a way to give them what they want. Google search is trash now (for reasons that aren’t entirely in Google’s control), but for the first decade it was magical how well it could one shot finding relevant data on the web.

> People like free and the “greedy corporations” found a way to give them what they want.

It’s like saying, “People want Fentanyl, so drug dealers just give them what they want.”

Social media causes addiction and depression.

Have you ever tried browsing the web for a couple of months without a Gmail, Facebook, or similar account — and without JavaScript enabled or using only non-standard browsers? The experience is terrible.

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Anyone used both Kagi assistant and perplexity and can share how was the experience?

I’m a Perplexity subscriber, but I’ve decided to favor Kagi. One issue I have with Perplexity is the lack of control over the search timeframes. With Kagi, I can use my own timeframe filters, such as last 2 days, last week, and last month.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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I am also an existing happy subscriber to Kagi. I currently pay for unlimited X. Now I pay for limited X, where I can't even see if I'm approaching limits or not. Anyway, my main point is that I'm getting LESS for the same money.

No! Are you wilfully misrepresenting this? You currently pay for unlimited X. Now you get unlimited X + limited Y. More.

I'm going to take a charitable interpretation of your post and assume that you have simply misunderstood Kagi subscription tiers, and you have mistakenly assumed that I was on the first tier. I am not on the first tier. I am on the tier which they continue to advertise with the words "Unlimited Kagi Assistant". That is the product I am paying for. Now, instead of getting "Unlimited Kagi Assistant", I am getting "Limited Kagi Assistant".

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post #193

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The thing still giving me pause is a lack of "bring your own model connection" between saas uh services. If I already pay for Gemini Advanced (or OpenAI/ChagtGPT Pro), I then have to pay for it again at every service that offers a Pro 2.5 (or 4.1/4o) tier. I should be able to connect my Gemini Advanced access to any service that offers Flash and be able to upgrade. Signing up for a bunch of services is starting to fe…

I doubt that fits in the usage model for those pricing plans. They're priced assuming it's inconvenient and less used because of it. I keep hearing they're losing money anyways, so despite being triple or quadruple dipped you're still paying less than it costs to run the models.

> I keep hearing they're losing money anyways

Hearing from whom?

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post #201

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That is actually a really nice model. Effectively it is 300 Search for $5 valid for one month. And instantly renew if you exceed $5. May be Kagi could also consider rolling over unused search for one month. So if you only did 200 searches, the remaining 100 will roll over to next month so you have 400 searches.

At some point this is becoming a really roundabout way to implement 1 search = 1.67 cents

An AWS-style pay-as-you-go plan would indeed be an interesting approach here.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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No! Are you wilfully misrepresenting this? You currently pay for unlimited X. Now you get unlimited X + limited Y. More.

I'm going to take a charitable interpretation of your post and assume that you have simply misunderstood Kagi subscription tiers, and you have mistakenly assumed that I was on the first tier. I am not on the first tier. I am on the tier which they continue to advertise with the words "Unlimited Kagi Assistant". That is the product I am paying for. Now, instead of getting "Unlimited Kagi Assistant", I am getting "Limi…

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