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Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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Re: Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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This reads to me as "we're doubling-down on 145%+ tariffs for everyone else". This is getting frighteningly close to a Russian-style economy. As in, a handful of powerful, connected "insiders" will be allowed to operate businesses, and will dominate... while everyone else gets wiped out, by acts of government. The furthest system possible from the free-market paradigm that built the American economy as it stands toda…

* stood yesterday

Re: Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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In a dark sense this is probably perfect for him.

He announces big tough tariffs on China, his base claps, hoots and hollers. He quietly walks it back via internal memo to CBP on a Friday night.

His base gets to see him be tough on China, without actually suffering any consequences of goods shortages or price increases.

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Speaking of which, what are the tariffs for Russia?

Oh, we don't need tariffs for Russia. But we put them in for Ukraine. - the Republican administration

What about penguins? Are they going to get a tariff exemption?

Re: Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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This reads to me as "we're doubling-down on 145%+ tariffs for everyone else". This is getting frighteningly close to a Russian-style economy. As in, a handful of powerful, connected "insiders" will be allowed to operate businesses, and will dominate... while everyone else gets wiped out, by acts of government. The furthest system possible from the free-market paradigm that built the American economy as it stands toda…

The US economy was not built on a free-market. US private capitalists have been built on a free market; now that their profits are under attack because they are being outcompeted by China, so they are running away with the ball. American economy real growth, where most white Americans gained wealth, came after World War II, where it was government led and controlled. It was the same for Europe, where they had to rebu…

>>Chinese economic model of government-controlled economic direction, though not perfect, would work better and help all the world's people rather than the select few

Is it better? For some reason average European lives better then Chinese, inequality is also not so huge

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There is no plan. Talk tough, reverse under pressure, rinse repeat. Anyone surprised must not have watched season one which aired in 2019.

If Trump is America's Napoleon III, who is the world's modern Otto von Bismark?

I'd nominate Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni. As authoritarian "president for life" since 1986, he's demonstrated some savvy statecrafting amid Africa's resource wars and ethnic violence, making the country a point of stability and economic growth on the continent.

(Of course, he's got plenty of negatives on the record too. But I think in the game of "Great Man History", he's already left a big legacy.)

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From an outsider’s perspective, it’s difficult to discern any coherent U.S. strategy—assuming one even exists. One day it’s a 145% tariff on China. The next, it’s “Well, it’s still 145%, but Apple and Nvidia are exempted because their stock prices might take a hit.” Then comes a 90-day pause, adding to the confusion. It’s not clear whether Jamieson Greer is actually steering this, or if any of it was thoroughly thoug…

I'd say it's clear that none of it was thoroughly thought through at the least.

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This is the only explanation that has made sense to me so far. And it makes even more sense based on these exemptions. https://www.instagram.com/share/_jW_V1hwM This is Senator Chris Murphy explaining it’s not economic policy, it’s an attempt to blackmail corporations into submission by making a deal with him in return for sanctions relief. Keep an eye out for what Apple and nvidia might have agreed to give.

I keep seeing these explanations of “4D chess”. It’s Donald Trump. He has absolutely no idea what he’s doing when it comes to economic policies. Unless you believe he can see into the future of how other world leaders would react and consistently outsmart everyone else, there’s no 4D chess being played.

Yeah he’s obviously in no state to decide on policy. We don’t know who is running things but it’s not him, a number of factions moving the direction a little bit in their favor whenever they get the opportunity. And of course there is massive insider trading going on too.

Re: Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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It's exactly what it is. And, the seemingly haphazard, unpredictable nature of it is a feature, serving as perfect cover: "Why these exemptions?" "Who knows? None of it makes sense." But, of course, it does. It's also consistent with other, publicly-wielded cudgels, like the law-firm extortions under threat of executive orders.

People should be more alarmed of these law firms, they will be used as his private army.

I’m sure the richest corporations are rushing to retain these firms in an attempt to be on the winning side.

Re: Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs

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Seems a bit anti-business to have an unequal playing field just for the star-bellied sneetches. Also silly that those with the biggest piles of capital are getting exemptions when the whole purpose of this exercise is to spur local investment in manufacturing. If anything, small businesses below some threshold of revenue/staff should be getting exemptions.

"Star-bellied sneetches" maybe, but it's not about "biggest piles of capital" as much as about importing things with the following codes: 8471 8473.30 8486 8517.13.00 8517.62.00 8523.51.00 8524 8528.52.00 8541.10.00 8541.21.00 8541.29.00 8541.30.00 8541.49.10 8541.49.70 8541.49.80 8541.49.95 8541.51.00 8541.59.00 8541.90.00 8542

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