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Even Arab dictatorships don't search phones on entry. What's happening here?
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...
Hah! Phones are a PITA to reliably backup and restore. I outlined the pain I had with it in this recentish comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42652663
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Same. I wish I had visited the US back in the days, especially pre-9/11 times when flying was super hassle free and people were optimistic about the future. Sadly I was still quite young. Oh well, there are many other beautiful countries in the Americas. And especially south-America is substantially cheaper.
My family has a large bottle of wine my mother took from Italy to New York in the 90s. Wild how the times change.
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This 100x, last time I crossed a border I shutdown my phone and because my phone was off the border guard considered that suspicious. Also apparently not using google maps is considered suspicious even if you're in an area you've lived your entire life.
I would definitely come across as suspicious to any border inspection. I have no Google apps, I have no social media apps. I have very few apps at all. I definitely qualify as someone that would be the type to wipe their phone. Also, my photos would definitely look like something someone staged to show activity, as the vast majority of my photos are of my fur babies. I don't do selfies, so that would be sus too. My b…
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> refusing to divulge the 20 characters password isn't really an option > wipe your phone and restore from backup If they can compel you to divulge the password, then they can compel you to restore from backup in front of them.
I think their point is that you have plausible deniability because they wouldn't know you have a backup.
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China is not on the list. We never had any difficulty or problem in the Chinese border.
Oh interesting. They were on our list (US company). In fact, our official guidance suggested not bringing work hardware to China at all.
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> Far better to wipe your phone and restore from backup after you've crossed the border. It’s a mantra but it’s incorrect: You’re supposed to list your “online accounts” to the border agent in the US.
don't have your backup online
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Certainly doable, grapheneOS has it https://grapheneos.org/features#duress .
I really want to respond to the dead comment under this. Setting a duress password is not tedious. AFAIK the justification for them to say "don't rely on adblockers for security/privacy" is that you can be more easily fingerprinted and those adblock lists are a moving target, vs. having better sandbox capabilities in the browser. The rest is conjecture I don't have the motivation to debate at the moment. As for the r…
If they rely on phoning home, such as a comparison of requests on different access, that's some top notch log analysis. Expensive too, compared to just running JS.
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GrapheneOS has the duress password feature [1]. I have it enabled, but have never needed to use it. [1] https://grapheneos.org/features#duress
A duress password that booted into an innocuous "safe mode" without access to your full browser and chat history would be a whole lot less likely to get you into more trouble than one which wipes the phone...
There's no way around the wipe at least and better hope the bugger installed is not persistent in some firmware.
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It has to do with your argument of "if you don't like it, don't go there". Also, you specifically asked "who came for you" so it's direct answer to your question.
Well yes, just don't go there with incriminating devices. They will try to bully us in many other ways but this has nothing to do with the devices and how to hide stuff.