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Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by computerex »

tstrimple wrote: post #274
computerex wrote: post #150

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I am not sure where you live but in most of America you can get an ICE vehicle serviced in minutes. I always go through one of those express oil changes, usually they get me all setup 10 mins once I roll in, don’t even have to get out of the car.

Last time I went to one of those, they managed to overfill my oil by two full quarts and it was leaking oil while parked in my garage. I’m hesitant to go back. The auto shop I prefer, that has employees I trust, mostly does “real repairs” and is booked out months in advance. There are tire places around here that offer oil change services as well. They are typically booked out a week or so. I mostly change my own oil…

I own a 2006 lx470, and a 2002 ls430. I own old cars. If I have a problem, and I want maximum convenience, I can drop the car off at the dealership pretty much whenever I want and they set me up with a nice loaner for the entire duration of the repair. I can do this whenever I want, without any scheduling headaches. But I have to pay the dealership premium for this experience.

If I want to be more cost effective, I call my local repair shop and they usually have me sorted within the week.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by rglynn »

mystified5016 wrote: post #245
bagacrap wrote: post #235

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GitHub cannot be used without pull requests. Git cannot be used without commits. Whether there is a code review process or everyone self approves is another question.

> git checkout develop ; git merge feature-branch ; git push --force Git with no PRs.

Please at least use --force-with-lease

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by libertine »

FireBeyond wrote: post #247
phtrivier wrote: post #191

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I suppose that would violate the advertiser's "free speech". It's very ironic that everyone is so afraid of Orwellian's "Ministry of Truth", and that we end in a world ruled by "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistical parrots, Inc."

Australia has very strong truth-in-advertising laws. Tesla advertised there that they were now the most popular selling car, outselling Camry... and were smacked down when Licensing records showed no such thing. Made to pull ads, pay a fine.

But these laws need to be revamped. A better fine would be Tesla needed to correct their claims publicly, in the same media space with the same time/investment to correct their claim.

Else fines will just be part of the cost of the false ads.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by Lanolderen »

BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #271
Lanolderen wrote: post #233

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I'm talking strictly acceleration since the parent was about that. No dig at Miatas or S2000s for being light, cheap to run, fun cars but a dig at the comparison since it feels apples to oranges and a note on I guess the development of acceleration in the past years. 20 years ago when S2000s were the shit everyone was running 100hp shitboxes. Locally, one of the local car guys in the early 2000s became a legend with…

I don't think comparing it to used or modified cars is very fair. I understand what you mean, though, and yes, the S2000 isn't that impressive anymore. Still, its straight line acceleration is very respectable for what it cost at the time, even when adjusting for inflation and average power isn't the only thing that went up, weight did too. What can you get that trounces it for the price? Even a Golf GTI doesn't do m…

I'm comparing it to used cars because it's a used car nowadays and because people don't drive exclusively new cars (which sets their expectation for acceleration) and because old cars are often so cheap you can't even get a Sandero for the price. I don't know how much an S2K costs now used but last I checked non molested ones were essentially collector items. They were in the nice Porsche Boxster territory. That was corona midlife crysis market though.

I looked up the price of the S2k new, apparently MSRP was ~32k$ for the AP1, inflation adjusted ~55k$. It's quite a bit. You can get a B58 Supra, M240 (again B58) or like an S3/TypeR. The S3 doesn't have a manual but the others do.

The Supra is probably the closest because RWD and it's an available in manual, 4s car with a B58 if eventually potentially you want to make stupid power in the future. Much heavier than the S2K but only the Miata and exotics exist in the lightweight convertible/coupe space nowadays. You do get an IMO lexusesque interior though.

Last minute thoughts:

Maybe a Caterham but then you're getting into stupid impractical territory.

Oh, actually the BRZ/GR86/etc is pretty interesting. It's not as quick and the engine is more boring (revs) but it's ~30k$ new and the same weight and power in coupe format. So a slightly more daily version for <60% of the price.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by [deleted] »

garyfirestorm wrote: post #246
E39M5S62 wrote: post #237

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Are you saying at Tesla, GitHub can't be used without pull requests? You can for sure (obviously) just push to whatever branch you want for your GitHub hosted repository if that's your desire.

As a newbie software engineer who has forced push to main numerous times last week without a PR. I’m surprised by this discourse on HN.

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Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by mystified5016 »

rglynn wrote: post #282
mystified5016 wrote: post #245

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> git checkout develop ; git merge feature-branch ; git push --force Git with no PRs.

Please at least use --force-with-lease

I've replaced CI checks on pull requests with the scream test.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress driving range complaints (2023)

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Post by MisterSandman »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #219
MisterSandman wrote: post #214

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I know you weren’t expecting a serious response, but Tesla does use Git. They actually use a fairly standard version of GitHub enterprise.

Using git does not mean there is a PR process in place. Git can be used just in the way the GP describes, recklessly putting binaries onto cars.

No, Tesla use Pull Requests too. It’s fairly standard GitHub usage, at least within the org I worked at. They also GitHub actions, though obviously the build tools are non-standard.
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