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Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#281
Optimistically, the increase of EV sales is good for decreasing overall tail pipe emissions.

But I still see the EV as saving the car industry rather than saving the world/environment. Reducing tail pipe emissions is great, but if it means increased tire wear particles, brake dust, increased wear on road infrastructure and increased demand on lithium supplies.

Are we really better off than before?

I would like to see a future where the private vehicle is _optional_ and public transportation is a viable option. A future where our cities and towns are not built around private vehicles (ie, expensive roads, parking garages, street parking, massive highways, infrastructure maintenance).

That’s a much better goal to achieve than pushing EVs or self driving cars.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#286

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It’s not so much of a problem due to the average daily drive being a fraction of range. So long as you can charge at home, city life is fine for electric cars.

Heck I can't plug my car in at home and it's still fine. I simply plan for the fact that I might spend 20 minutes here or there at the charger, at most once a week. Best case I do some grocery shopping, worst case I just sit in the car watching YouTube, either way is fine.

I don't know, I'm kind of annoyed to have to go to the charger. My parents' house has a plug and the car is always full, whenever I need it. It does make a difference in convenience, so I'm installing a charger in my garage in a few days as well.

However, many parking lots have slowish AC chargers nowadays, so it's very convenient to have the car charge for an hour or two while I do my shopping or whatever.

Basically, it's the difference between having to wait specifically for a charge or whether I'm doing my own thing and charging the car as a bonus.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#287

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Always thought that the parking meters should be changed out for chargers that act as parking meters too. City would get more money and the infrastructure would be there to help with downtown charging. Duel use meters would still allow ICE to use the them too. As EVs become more popular, big name stores should start adding a few chargers to their parking lots. Apartment complexes could add them to entice maximum capa…

It would be extremely expensive to replace every parking meter with a charger.

It would cost money, but could be done more cheaply at scale and if amortized.

Start by spacing them mostly near housing, and spread them to replace more parking meters as usage increases.

It is also expensive to not switch off of ICE vehicles.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#288

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That advice might not travel well: until recently I lived in a city where the bike rental service pulled out because too many were thrown in canals.

Let me guess ... probably drunks so guess drinking culture. Maybe UK. Big city with enough canals for this to be an issue ... probably Birmingham?

It's everywhere. Here's some American news stories:

NY:

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2024/09/12/the-river-wild-bikes-...

Michigan:

https://www.mlive.com/environment/2024/08/seriously-waterway...

DC:

https://irrigationleadermagazine.com/not-so-convenient-why-s...

Ohio:

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/30-electronic...

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always thought that the parking meters should be changed out for chargers that act as parking meters too. City would get more money and the infrastructure would be there to help with downtown charging. Duel use meters would still allow ICE to use the them too. As EVs become more popular, big name stores should start adding a few chargers to their parking lots. Apartment complexes could add them to entice maximum capa…

It would be extremely expensive to replace every parking meter with a charger.

On my street they have attached chargers to the street lights.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

#290
Federal EV tax credits saved buyers about $1 billion in 2024. Also huge tax credits, tax rebates and tax exemptions. Also subsidized EV charging stations.

In the U.S., states have awarded massive economic development packages to EV and battery factories. Georgia, for instance, gave $1.5 billion to Rivian and $1.8 billion to Hyundai for EV plants. Nationwide, over $13.8 billion has been committed to at least 51 such projects, often funded partly by federal pandemic relief funds like the American Rescue Plan Act.

So the landscape has profoundly changed and it’ll be interesting to see what this does to growth.

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