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Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by sunshowers »

skyyler wrote: post #57
realo wrote: post #37

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Yes but... but... Did you update it to the latest version of Mac OS (Sequoia) with all the security patches via official Apple channels ? No you did not.

I don't think you can update any 10-year-old windows computer to the latest version of windows (11) with all security patches via official microsoft channels. (Also, lol @ "via official Apple channels", you're aware Open Core Legacy Patcher is a thing and have hedged against people mentioning it.) What are you comparing to?

Not 10 years old, but I have a 2017 laptop that updated to Windows 11 just fine. It's somewhat slow though and I enjoy the dual-booted Linux on it more.

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Post by month13 »

rqtwteye wrote: post #258
progmetaldev wrote: post #245

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To be fair, Windows really had the same type of issues going from the old Control Panel to Settings. I still get large delays for some of the screens in Windows Settings.

I think it's pretty crazy how slow a lot of the newer things in Windows 11 are. Explorer is super slow, Settings are slow. Sometimes I think even if I wanted to make things that slow (without using sleep statements), I wouldn't know how do it.

You see it in Windows 10, as well. Seeing the "working on it" when navigating folders, as if I'm using 5400 RPM hard disk drives.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by brailsafe »

flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

Successfully reproduced. Rough. Maybe they counted on people bailing out after attempting to trudge through the sloppy mess that is the newish Settings app before they even got to the Change wallpaper section, forgetting that there was another path.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by sunshowers »

judofyr wrote: post #70
realo wrote: post #37

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Yes but... but... Did you update it to the latest version of Mac OS (Sequoia) with all the security patches via official Apple channels ? No you did not.

Not quite sure what you're trying to say, but the MacBook Air 11" 2015 model supports macOS Monterey[1] which got a security update 6 months ago[2]. [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/103260 [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Monterey

It's well-known that old versions of macOS get security updates quite late, if ever [1].

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/11/psa-apple-isnt-actua...

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by tacker2000 »

alberth wrote: post #54
john_alan wrote: post #44

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Using macOS since Tiger as daily driven. Never been worse. Needs a “Snow Leopard” year.

> Never been worse. How so? Would you mind giving examples. Note: I'm not disagreeing. Just curious what software quality issues you're having exactly.

Icons with no text everywhere.

The icons in the top bar getting extreme spacing

Spotlight search is a complete mess

Update nagging every time i wake my mac from sleep

Basically the whole iOSification of macOS

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Post by deskr »

A few yeas ago my friend had his iphone replaced three times under warranty. Every single time the mic failed and it came up with a message after boot that an audio device had failed. His next phone was an Android one.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by qwerpy »

lostlogin wrote: post #86
ohgr wrote: post #36

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You don't need an Apple account to install an adblocker. You just install it from here https://adguard.com/en/adguard-mac/overview.html And you don't have to pay for it, just close the ask.

Do you need a blocker if you run PiHole? It seems to do the job for the house very nicely.

Yes you still do. Sophisticated companies (Amazon, Google, Meta, many others) will serve ads from the same domains that serve the content you actually want. Pihole can't block the ads without blocking everything. Ad blockers are necessary to block specific pieces of content from amazon.com, youtube.com, etc., while still letting you use the service. It's a constant cat and mouse game, but ublock origin does a good job of staying updated.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by dmd »

flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

Try as I might for the last 30 minutes, having read all the other comments in this thread so far, I can't reproduce this on 15.3.1.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by brailsafe »

dmd wrote: post #288
flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

Try as I might for the last 30 minutes, having read all the other comments in this thread so far, I can't reproduce this on 15.3.1.

Did you try it with numerous pointing devices, or one in particular? It took only one try on a trackpad, M3 MBP

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by kyralis »

tbeseda wrote: post #27

Anecdotally, Apple Music has deteriorated exponentially for me. iTunes was such a stable, usable piece of software, but I can't get reliable use out of Apple Music for the life of me. It _feels_ like a shoddy Electron app. But that's not fair to the actual Electron (or similar) apps that actually work. For all its many design and product flaws, Spotify actually works.

It basically is an Electron app; most of the UI is server-driven. It's just not HTML and js.

News, Books, and TV are all similar.

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