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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by dapperdrake »

chefandy wrote: post #115
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #7

We're watching the ultimate destructive expression of the comp sci "oh, we can just automate that" hubris.

Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time…

Well, some professionals fail at being counter-examples.

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Post by root_axis »

riffraff wrote: post #89
croes wrote: post #11

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A list of Tweets and the Savings site is empty. Doge Much Transparency

one big sad thing among others is how the doge meme, which carried with it a lot of fun and kindness baggage (the dogecoin community made a ton of random donations) ended up used by people who are the diametrical opposite.

Reminds me of another co-opted symbol that had it's meaning transformed to its opposite.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by dialup_sounds »

slt2021 wrote: post #277
_Algernon_ wrote: post #97

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Isn't this what you guys have the second amendment for? To secure a free state?

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You're confusing FEMA's $20 billion disaster relief appropriation and the completely separate $650 funding for the Customs & Border Patrol's Shelter and Services Program.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by ryandrake »

kcplate wrote: post #273
intended wrote: post #255

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Thats a poor reading of the effort the Republicans have put into ensuring they win. Firstly, its not because of reasons that people win in America, not anymore. People didnt know that the ACA was Obamacare, or that Biden dropped out . Fox and the GOP created an orwellian political power that has parasitized democratic processess. Classic example would be climate change, in the 90s, when FOX was created. Fox platforme…

No offense but my comment was a response to the suggestion that someone who didn’t vote somehow committed wrongdoing. Not sure how a diatribe against the “evils” of the GOP voter persuasion machine speaks much to that. It’s obvious to me both parties denigrate the other candidate through media and publicity. My decision to not vote for Harris boiled down to my opinion that she failed in her one duty as VP, which was…

We're getting wrapped up over the word "complicit." Fine, let's be neutral: "An eligible voter who doesn't vote, through inaction supports whoever ends up winning." The act of not voting can mean nothing but "I'm OK with whoever."

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Post by kcplate »

ryandrake wrote: post #284
kcplate wrote: post #273

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No offense but my comment was a response to the suggestion that someone who didn’t vote somehow committed wrongdoing. Not sure how a diatribe against the “evils” of the GOP voter persuasion machine speaks much to that. It’s obvious to me both parties denigrate the other candidate through media and publicity. My decision to not vote for Harris boiled down to my opinion that she failed in her one duty as VP, which was…

We're getting wrapped up over the word "complicit." Fine, let's be neutral: "An eligible voter who doesn't vote, through inaction supports whoever ends up winning." The act of not voting can mean nothing but "I'm OK with whoever."

> The act of not voting can mean nothing but "I'm OK with whoever."

Or it can mean “I am not ok with either”. That is the reason I didn’t vote for Trump or Harris. Why should I participate when neither viable political party actually respects my vote enough to run a candidate that is worthy of a vote?

I don’t need to vote for the lesser of two evils or to feel like I voted for a winner.

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Post by Izkata »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #76
atomicnumber3 wrote: post #43

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The checks and balances assumed the entire country didn't vote the exact same people into majorities in all 3 branches

There have been cases before where both the Executive and Legislative branches have been held by the same party. What's different now is that Trump is trying to consolidate much more power in the Executive branch (an explicit Project2025 goal), and Congress is powerless because the GOP are all afraid of highly vociferous MAGA reprisals (I mean, he did pardon all those who violently stormed the capitol and threatened…

> What's different now is that Trump is trying to consolidate much more power in the Executive branch

He's doing the exact opposite, shutting down and shrinking departments to reduce the power of the executive branch.

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Post by chefandy »

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #271
chefandy wrote: post #115

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Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time…

Can't speak to doctors, but I've been a mechanic and yes there's some large overlap in debugging skills between a good mechanic and a programmer, a mindset of wanting to understand how things work, and breaking down the problem into manageable parts.

Sure. There’s overlap with a lot of things. This developer said that it was (paraphrased) ‘hard for him to take people like mechanics seriously because they lack his superior debugging skills.’ There was no attempt to draw similarities. He was simply saying that developer smarts were the best smarts and they trumped all other smarts.

I can’t tell you how many times developers have tried to explain cooking concepts to me knowing I’m a classically trained and experienced chef. Or explain design to me knowing I have a design degree and years of experience doing it. Some developers just have unending hubris.

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Post by chefandy »

dapperdrake wrote: post #281
chefandy wrote: post #115

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Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time…

Well, some professionals fail at being counter-examples.

I’ve worked in several professions, with dev being the longest— I’ve encountered more bullshit and incompetence from devs than any other industry I’ve worked in except for tech support. I’ve heard developers saying they’ll simply ‘pivot’ if the big productivity machine eats up their corner of the dev market. Oof… They’re looking at a rude awakening when they see how preciously developers are treated compared to most other employed adults, and how badly they underestimated the unseen complexities in other people’s jobs.

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Post by chefandy »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #265
chefandy wrote: post #115

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Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time…

That's exactly how they think. Coders tend to employ systems thinking to a fault, where they reduce something very complex to fit a too-simple mental model. It's like going into a room with a lion and thinking it's a house cat because they're both shaped the same. Failing to take note of the key differences will quickly lead to your demise.

Right. Like I always say — you can create a simple solution to any complex problem if you ignore enough pertinent factors.

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Post by [deleted] »

Freedom2 wrote: post #226
mostlysimilar wrote: post #222

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You don't get to vote to break laws. You can vote to change or remove laws, but that is not what is happening here.

That is not what many voted for. I personally know a few who voted with glee because Trump is a loose cannon and follows no decorum.

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