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Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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We don’t do personal attacks here, please.

The original comment implies their “friends” are failures, which i don’t know about you but I wouldn’t say that about any of my friends, and wouldn’t expect any of my friends to say that about me. Pointing that out is not a personal insult.

Thanks for being the only person to understand that I was legitimately trying to discourage toxic behavior, not condone it.

This site sometimes...

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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We will be just fine. Just like cigarette smoking, eventually weed will become unpopular to smoke. Unfortunately, it does seem like there is a big uptake in users after legalization, which hopefully will subside.

I don’t think Cigarette smoking became unpopular without heavy regulation. In countries that don’t have such restrictions, smoking is still ubiquitous.

The data [1] don't really show this. In particular as recently as 2001-2003 35% of young adults (in the US) said they smoked, versus an all-time historical high of 45% across all age groups for some context. By 2019 that figure was down to 10% for young adults. The first bans on advertising smoking went into effect in 1971!

So what happened in the ~2000 era window of time? The internet and social media started exploding in popularity. In fact you'll find that the graph of the decline in teen pregnancy [2] looks roughly similar to the decline in young adult smoking, and probably for the exact same reason.

[1] - https://news.gallup.com/poll/509720/cigarette-smoking-rate-s...

[2] - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/08/02/why-is-th...

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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I don’t think Cigarette smoking became unpopular without heavy regulation. In countries that don’t have such restrictions, smoking is still ubiquitous.

The data [1] don't really show this. In particular as recently as 2001-2003 35% of young adults (in the US) said they smoked, versus an all-time historical high of 45% across all age groups for some context. By 2019 that figure was down to 10% for young adults. The first bans on advertising smoking went into effect in 1971! So what happened in the ~2000 era window of time? The internet and social media started explod…

A much more obvious reason for the decline in smoking is the popularization of vapes. If you look at U.S. adults, you'll see that the decline in tobacco smoking is almost entirely made up for by the increase in vaping.

Technically, of course, vapes aren't cigarettes. But It's a bit misleading to say that smoking is unpopular, when it's just been replaced by a doppelganger. Especially since vapes are also deeply detrimental to health [1].

[1] - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7348661/

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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A cynical take on many governments embracing weed is Soma [1]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma_(Brave_New_World)

Brave New World is actually a utopian story told from the perspective of a weird shut-in who only reads Shakespeare and the Bible.

Funny how when I read Brave New World it greatly got on my nerves, mainly due to how it's supposed to be a "dystopian" novel. To me it indeed depicted a dream world in so many ways.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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Funny. I have smoked regularly for two decades, yet also have two STEM degrees, a full time EE job, occasional side work, and I’m fixing up a 100 year old house. But I started in farm land learning to build with raw materials, fixing tractors and other machines, growing food, while most of my peers sat inside watching TV. My muscle and cognitive memory is well developed from development of electronics products, a lif…

>Funny. I have smoked regularly for two decades, yet also have two STEM degrees, a full time EE job, occasional side work, and I’m fixing up a 100 year old house. Congrats and I don't mean to be demeaming, but you sell it as if that were a peak achievement and it's actually quite mid. The hardest part of those achievements would be studying and testing for calculus and algebra, for which I assume you had to drop the…

This post says far, far more about you than anything the other fellow has said does about him.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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"Self-medicating with cannabis" is such a stupid idea since cannabis increase ADHD-symptoms.

Stimulants also 'increase ADHD-symptoms' for individuals that don't have ADHD, so I don't think the sentiment was attempting to address side effects of irrelevant cohorts.

It's a myth that stimulants only work on people with ADHD. ADHD is not a real condition anyway, it's a collection of symptoms that can have many different causes.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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The (western) world today is incredibly divisive, and differing opinions are not only met with hate but lies are rampant and people in power use this propaganda to keep themselves there, sucking resources from everyone else and cause untold amounts of suffering to satiate their infinite greed. I’m not advocating for a world where people can’t speak their mind, but it does feel like a stretch to call the current situa…

aren't propagating proprietary agendas the foundational problem, constituting the lies and the fraud that both the hate and it's recipients reactive actions result from, not the other way around? it looks like it's not even a cycle, though it might look like one because the coal is shoved top down into the boiling boiler room, to reward and insentivize, the business and marketing psychologists and the disseminatora o…

I didn’t understand anything about your comment. Please use capital letters to differentiate sentences—they are useful to help readers parse your ideas, they’re not a stylistic choice. You (seemingly) wrote something full of metaphor and covert examples and made it look like a run-on sentence, which is hard to read.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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We learned nothing from your casual observation. You took 2 parts and combined them together to form a conclusion based on hearsay. So not better than what you're arguing against.

Who is "we"?

The HN audience, you and I.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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I'm not sure what your are arguing here. Even if they are 30 they are well over 1100

I wasn't meaning to argue anything beyond perhaps bringing to light how naïve these studies are. We don't count alcohol consumption this way. Is someone that smokes once per week for 20 years a heavy user? Would anyone consider someone that drinks once per week for 20 years a heavy drinker? Why do these studies assume weed is cumulative but alcohol isn’t? Is it because most researchers have experience with being drun…

Oh I see. Yes I would definitely agree with that.

Thanks for the clarification

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