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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by BeetleB »

throwup238 wrote: post #260
BeetleB wrote: post #252

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That's silly. There's a globule test that doesn't give a false positive for vaccinated people. Perhaps it's more recent than when you last had to go through this?

What’s the name for that test? I last had one in the late 2000s

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/testing/blood-test.html

Developed in the 90's.

Approved by the FDA in 2005. Probably took a while for it to become widespread.

The thing is: The protocol for a positive skin test wasn't "Here, take this 9 month treatment." It was "You need a chest X-Ray to show it's not active. If not, you're good to go!" Especially if they know you've received the vaccine. And no one should have made you go through the treatment multiple times - it's pointless, because even if you never had the vaccine but had latent/active TB, you will always test positive with the skin test. Knowing you'd gone through treatment once should have sufficed.

I know a nurse who definitely has latent TB (i.e. no vaccine). And she never had problems after a positive skin test - her employers always knew about it and as long as she had a clean chest X-Ray, she was deemed fit to interact with (at risk) patients.

Whoever made you go through treatment was incompetent.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by userbinator »

tzs wrote: post #230
School-Cotton wrote: post #148

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Covid was spreading in many countries before the US. Off the top of my head I remember China, Korea, Italy and Spain. And no country of significant size avoided it, regardless of whether they were led by Trump or not.

I don't know if any of these would count as being significantly sized, but Japan, Australia, and South Korea handled it a lot better than the US [1] when it comes to deaths per 100k. Interestingly, Australia and South Korea did have more cases per 100k than the US[2]. [1] https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countr... [2] https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countr...

Also worth looking at Denmark, France, Hungary, Romania, and the UK.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by throwup238 »

BeetleB wrote: post #281
throwup238 wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the name for that test? I last had one in the late 2000s

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/testing/blood-test.html Developed in the 90's. Approved by the FDA in 2005. Probably took a while for it to become widespread. The thing is: The protocol for a positive skin test wasn't "Here, take this 9 month treatment." It was "You need a chest X-Ray to show it's not active. If not, you're good to go!" Especially if they know you've received the vaccine. And no one should have made you go th…

To be clear I never went through the treatment, it just took a lot of arguing with doctors and the school/nonprofit administration in question after the false positive. I never had a chest xray either, I just had to drill it into their heads that Soviets got the vaccine and that it causes a false positive.

It sounds like they weren’t very well informed of TB protocol.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by School-Cotton »

jmye wrote: post #231
School-Cotton wrote: post #152

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Why? Not voting is perfectly rational if you, like most Americans, live in a state where your vote doesn’t matter.

… Do you think President is the only thing on the ballot? Do you think that maybe, if everyone voted, the demographics might be different? I’m so tired of this nonsense. If y’all bothered showing up for state and local races, you could even change elections in your state. But that would like, take effort, so I get why you’d rather shitpost about how worthless it all is.

We were talking about the presidential election.

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #237
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #205

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The team that contained SARSv1? No one contained it successfully. In fact, there were many lab leaks of it. The outbreak itself was stopped by basic measures like masks and screening. But it also was far less infectious than SARSv2. Blaming Trump for COVID-19 makes no sense for other reasons too. There are so many other people to blame first. Fauci for funding GoF research at WIV through EHA. The CCP for being secret…

You left out how conservative media was adamant that it was a politically motivated hoax and ensured their faithful were kept in the dark about the looming threat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA

Thanks for the find - I don’t follow conservative news usually, so I’m looking forward to learning how things were skewed on that side of media.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by briandear »

mikeyouse wrote: post #173
ziddoap wrote: post #32

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From where? When? Baffles me that someone would write something so definitively yet not expand on it in any way at all. Not saying you're wrong (I have no idea), but what a low-effort comment. I'm curious, you seem (or claim, at least) to know something, can you help me satisfy my curiosity?

From the linked UNMC article; > The outbreak involved 13 people across four households in Kansas City and spanned 1 year. While a majority of the seven adults identified were born outside the U.S. in a country that had experienced a multidrug-resistant TB outbreak with the same genotype in 2007-2009, most of the six children were U.S.-born, noted Elizabeth Groenweghe, MPH, of the Unified Government Public Health Depa…

What are the “obvious reasons?” It seems to me the obvious reasons are that the claim is that illegal immigration has been blamed for outbreaks of diseases that are relatively uncommon in the U.S. and publishing the full details would provide evidence supporting that claim.

But if that is what happened, then why not publish those details? If that isn’t what happened, then why not publish those details? Facts are always preferred to conjuncture.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by mindslight »

llm_trw wrote: post #147
foobarchu wrote: post #131

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That's because it's an extremely big deal and affects many things discussed here.

It's because people now treat parties like they used to treat football teams.

If you mean avoiding the Party so you don't get beat up for being different, then the analogy checks out.

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Post by fingrprintr »

ziddoap wrote: post #47
fingrprintr wrote: post #34

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> I’ll wager more people consume typical media outlets than the CDC’s weekly publications Typical media sources the CDC weekly publications. Well, used to, anyways. Where do you think typical media got their information from?

The state agency with the same mandate… which is what is already happening. No reason to duplicate that effort federally.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by fingrprintr »

ceejayoz wrote: post #37
fingrprintr wrote: post #34

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The CDC is likely to be one of the primary sources for said media on national health issues like this.

This is a local health issue, the local equivalent is doing the work here.
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