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Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by purplethinking »

glitchc wrote: post #193
JohnMakin wrote: post #3

I'm a PoC, and stuff like this reads extremely bizarre to me. On the one hand, you're acknowledging rolling back DEI initiatives in part because of the "political landscape," and that you were already committed to diversity on your teams. That's all well and good, but then, why the initiative in the first place? It seems to me you're doing at least 1 thing here, and acknowledging that such DEI program was performativ…

I think that's the point. DEI is performative. A business cannot survive unless it hires the best person for the job.

A few small holes will not sink the aircraft carrier, but eventually there will be enough holes. See Disney.

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Post by chasd00 »

threeseed wrote: post #261
glimshe wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing this about Twitter and Facebook but my experience is completely different. I believe the default experience is as you describe, but after I started following dozens of retrogaming groups, old games are all I see in both places. Even the ads became relevant and, believe it or not, interesting. I've clicked on a couple, which took me to small creators in the retrogaming and RPG areas.

I run a number of business X accounts which are post-only. The very second the US election got underway all of our accounts started to heavily promote right-wing political content. Even though we specifically said when we signed up that we aren't interested in anything like that.

This happened to me on imgur, i explicitly filtered out politics but once the election got underway I started seeing it everywhere (except in imgur's case it was left-wing content). I turned off the politics filter and then turned it back on and they vanished for a time but then slowly leaked back in. If i reset the filter every week then i could keep political related content hidden for the most part.

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Post by pkkkzip »

j7ake wrote: post #231

Why does the skin color or gender matter if in the end they pick candidates that all went to the same top schools or have previously worked at the same top companies? Diversity in training, education and work history vastly outweighs diversity in superficial physical features.

Top schools like ivy league in America exclusively discriminate against Asians and there was a lawsuit but its not being enforced.

This is a different issue that precedes DEI.

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Post by dijit »

wussboy wrote: post #152
loeg wrote: post #56

Good to hear. Racism / sexism has no place in hiring practices and was always illegal.

I feel like people who say this haven't read the research about our unconscious biases. My personal "hit me on the head" moment was reading about the Cincinnati Orchestra who started auditioning candidates behind a curtain and suddenly found their ratio of male:female went from 3:1 to 1:1. No one at that organization was consciously discriminating. Everyone thought as you did that they were acting without racism/sexi…

You should read the research because its actually good.

They studied the effect of telling people that they had an unconscious bias and it worked in eliminating it.

I would like to see that reproduced as it seemed like only certain demographics followed as you would expect; and primarily not the one you would like to hear. But it would be good to do something actually effective that doesnt introduce racism to fight racism.

Fire vs Fire style.

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Post by ge96 »

eitally wrote: post #142
glimshe wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing this about Twitter and Facebook but my experience is completely different. I believe the default experience is as you describe, but after I started following dozens of retrogaming groups, old games are all I see in both places. Even the ads became relevant and, believe it or not, interesting. I've clicked on a couple, which took me to small creators in the retrogaming and RPG areas.

The same is true with Reddit. The default feed is absolutely awful, but the bar required to curate something individually interesting and useful is too high for most new users, given the toxicity + banality of the default.

YouTube is nuts when not logged in as well. Those crazy clickbait thumbnails eg. Mr. Beast or whatever.

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Post by rendang »

mempko wrote: post #116
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #15

This comment is based upon n two assumptions: 1) Twitter has imploded, and is on the road to Myspace level relevance 2) that implosion is due to a removal of moderation I'll try to keep it politically neutral. But this and other Facebook announcements means inexorable collapse is on the medium term horizon, because they mirror what Twitter did These actions could possibly be done with social network circa early to mi…

I created a new account on Twitter to see what new users see and the website is unusable. It's basically 4chan now with Elon Musk and sports. Anyone defending people should try it. See how long you don't see and Elon Musk post or other hateful far right content.

I use it every day and my feed is full of intelligent, thoughtful analysis and discussion. Even the edgy humor is much more clever and subtle than what you'd find on Reddit or 4chan

Re: Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs

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Post by pkkkzip »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #15

This comment is based upon n two assumptions: 1) Twitter has imploded, and is on the road to Myspace level relevance 2) that implosion is due to a removal of moderation I'll try to keep it politically neutral. But this and other Facebook announcements means inexorable collapse is on the medium term horizon, because they mirror what Twitter did These actions could possibly be done with social network circa early to mi…

by that same logic Bluesky should be overtaking X but it isn't

X is growing even bigger and has international reach which Bluesky doesn't

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JohnMakin wrote: post #3

I'm a PoC, and stuff like this reads extremely bizarre to me. On the one hand, you're acknowledging rolling back DEI initiatives in part because of the "political landscape," and that you were already committed to diversity on your teams. That's all well and good, but then, why the initiative in the first place? It seems to me you're doing at least 1 thing here, and acknowledging that such DEI program was performativ…

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