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Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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AndyMcConachie wrote: post #169
nine_k wrote: post #108

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To me, the key feature of Amazon is the fast delivery with Prime. Do other merchants offer fast delivery often enough? Regarding credit cards, I started using privacy dot com for virtual, merchant-locked cards. It protects against (rare) card details leaks, but, of course, does not give you any points or cashback.

It's interesting to me that some people really see fast-delivery as an important feature of e-commerce. In the 20+ years I've been buying stuff online I think maybe less than 5% of the time I have cared about how fast I get something delivered. Then again I don't have a business that relies on things getting to me fast. I'm just a guy who buys crap online for myself and my family. If I'm getting a book or some electr…

I think it's less fast shipping, and more reliable shipping.

I ordered a pair of shoes from a major UK high street store earlier this year who advertised 3 day shipping. Fine, I'm going away next weekend. Except, it turns out their guarantee is from dispatch, which is 3-5 days. It was listed in the small print on the order page, but even the order page still had the "Free 3 day shipping" banner on it. Unsurprisingly, they took 5 days to dispatch, and 3 days to deliver. I actually ended up going into the store to buy them, and returning them when I got home.

Amazon, for all it's faults, if they say next day, it's almost certainly going to arrive next day.

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philipov wrote: post #254
abduhl wrote: post #248

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Define what a livable wage is then. Is it $25/hr? $50/hr? $100/hr?

To start with, any definition that ends with a constant number is wrong. The living wage in an area depends on the cost of living in that area. I don't have that number on hand, but I expect it to be included in any discussion of what people should get payed. After that, we need to ask how much profit a person should be allowed to make on their labor.

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Post by maccard »

Fin_Code wrote: post #253
yoyohello13 wrote: post #227

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> I’ve lived in a country with very powerful unions and it sucks— miss every 5th flight because the union decides to strike. I'm willing to accept inconvenience if it means strong workers' rights.

Keep saying that when a vacation get ruined because your connections got messed up and your out thousands of dollars.

Where are you based?

> Keep saying that when a vacation get ruined because your connections got messed up and your out thousands of dollars.

Travel Insurance?

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Post by willismichael »

Fin_Code wrote: post #253
yoyohello13 wrote: post #227

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> I’ve lived in a country with very powerful unions and it sucks— miss every 5th flight because the union decides to strike. I'm willing to accept inconvenience if it means strong workers' rights.

Keep saying that when a vacation get ruined because your connections got messed up and your out thousands of dollars.

Many of the folks in the unions can't even dream of spending thousands of dollars on a vacation.

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Post by mint2 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #243
hirvi74 wrote: post #205

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In silk bedsheets. I also don't see how developers have any link with contract negotiations with warehouse workers? How do you sleep at night knowing that you attack people based on which job they do to provide for their family?

“ How do you sleep at night knowing that you attack people based on which job they do to provide for their family”

If a line of reasoning can equally justify all the people who pushed opioids onto Americans, then it’s not a good one.

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Post by Dalewyn »

mschuster91 wrote: post #280
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #246

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> I’m not sure why the general sentiment here is that Amazon workers do not deserve a living wage and should be replaced with robots These are two entirely unrelated issues. If the world doesn't need a particular task to be done by humans, then the task should be performed by robots. Until that happens, the workers should be treated humanely.

> If the world doesn't need a particular task to be done by humans, then the task should be performed by robots. The problem is, our society isn't ready for that shift, not even close. Employment opportunities for the low skilled have all but gone down the drain - there is a reason why Walmart, Amazon and the other usual suspects love to set up shop in devastated communities: they have a captive audience that has no…

>while it being replaced by robots may be better for society as a whole (if one follows the belief that all work should be done by machines so that humans can follow their individual interests)

While "robots" are a fairly recent concept, the advancement of human civilization has been predicated on ever increasing efficiencies of human labor.

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a12k wrote: post #102

I’ve found that the rise of Apply Pay as a payment mechanism on random sites has been helpful in getting me off of Amazon. Often it’s just as easy to order something direct if they have Apple Pay (or ShopPay, but I have other issues with them) and the same price as Amazon. Plus discoverability is awful on Amazon anyways. Still don’t get the Whole Foods return ability when not shopping from Amazon, but not punching in…

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ITB wrote: post #210

I don’t understand why all these comments are about who buys or doesn’t buy at Amazon. The article is about unionization and strikes. I expect a conversation about the merits of unions and their negotiation tactics. In my opinion, events like these will just accelerate job elimination. The goal of a logistics company is to be reliable. Humans are unreliable and more so when they are purposely and collectively unrelia…

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ramon156 wrote: post #5

Had to buy some simple toolkit today. It was 5 bucks on Amazon, but I decided to find a local store that sells it. Same price btw. I think we should be a bit more aware about the impact of ordering everything through Amazon. Not only regarding delivery, but also the message it sends to local stores.

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