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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Please don't post personal attacks here, regardless of how you feel about someone. You may not owe people who you feel are psychopaths better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sam Altman is routinely accused of and criticized for manipulative, exploitative behavior. If you can't let commenters name that as psychopathy, it is you who are using fallacious reasoning. You also did not consider the context of my remark, I specifically wrote without ambiguity, formally:

"How about "Person A is an X"." Just because I didn't type in those quotations doesn't mean one can interpret it any which way. It is technically a distinction of use-mention fallacy, in context of the response.

Meanwhile, if the above conservative commenter hand-wrings, and outright patronizes/polices another, user about not making public accusations without being able to read in good faith, then they forfeit their standing that a response be held to a higher standard than theirs. They are the one playing moderator. Furthermore, my response merely challenges their logic, and alludes to the fact that many people in this community "feel" and variously describe Altman's psychopathic tendencies, to shine a light on the logic of their argument.

What this community needs is to not rationalize their Silicon-valley techno-conservative political values to suppress strongly dissenting views, and not to abuse the moderator's power by misreading and misreporting people who criticize their prejudiced comments. I am not responsible for their lack of reading skills and not knowing what a use-mention fallacy is.

I'll also note the subtle smooth presumption of telling someone it's really about how they feel. No, I believe things and my specific beliefs may be right or wrong, and at its core it is the actual ad hominem of making one side about subjective feelings rather than evidence-based, rational beliefs the way the ground rules of good faith discussions require in the first place.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Yeah, it's making you look back at yourself. Like when someone tells you that you look tired or sick or something like that, and you are actually not but you still need to check it up because they might have a point. Then more often than not you start feeling that way. It's suggestive.

Might be worth investing some energy leveling up skills of not lettting random internet jerks have that much power over thy emotions

You build it over time but sometimes they invent brilliant attacks vectors.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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And you could even use SSS (Shamir's Secret Sharing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_secret_sharing ) to split the key to decrypt your confidential information across n people, such that some k (where k Then, for example, consider n = 5, k = 3 - if any 3 of 5 selected friends decide the trigger has been met, they can work together to decrypt the information. But a group of 2 of the 5 could not - reducing th…

Then you just make those friends a target. They only need to buy-off or kill 3. It is unlikely the general public would know of them, so it likely wouldn’t be reported on.

I wonder if having some sort of public/semi-public organization of trading parts of SSS's could be done.

Right now, as an individual, you'd have pretty small number of trusted N's (from parents definition). With some organization, maybe you could get that number way up, so possibility of destroying the entire scheme could be close to impossible with rounding up large number of the population.

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When David is just a nobody, and Goliath has all of the legal and PR resources in the world, Goliath doesn't even have to swing a punch. Goliath can just drive them crazy with social and legal pressure. Also, David might have been a bit of a decision-making outlier to begin with, being the kind of person who decides going up against Goliath is a good idea.

They’ve been pulling out the Reverse Luigi for decades.

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In a lot of ways, the statistical processing is a novel form of information retrieval. So the issue is somewhat like if 20 years ago Google was indexing the web, then decided to just rehost all the indexed content on their own servers and monetize the views instead linking to the original source of the content.

It’s not anything like rehosting though. Assume I read a bunch of web articles, synthesize that knowledge and then answer a bunch of question on the web. I am performing some form of information retrieval. Do I need to pay the folks who wrote those articles even though they provided it for free on the web? It seems like the only difference between me and ChatGPT is the scale at which ChatGPT operates. ChatGPT can mem…

I love this argument.

"Seems like only difference between me and ChatGPT is absolutely everything".

You can't be flippant about scale not being a factor here. It absolutely is a factor. Pretending that ChatGPT is like a person synthesizing knowledge is an absurd legal argument, it is absolutely nothing like a person, its a machine at the end of the day. Scale absolutely matters in debates like this.

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Police now say it's been ruled a suicide: https://sfstandard.com/2024/12/13/key-openai-whistleblower-d... https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2024/12/13/openai-... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/openai-whistleblower-dead_n_6...

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Dude graduated from Cal with a 3.98 in Computer Science! Certainly kicks my sorry ass. Being brilliant can be a burden, I guess.

Also reached Master level at Codeforces,well before joining his engineering course: https://codeforces.com/profile/suchir

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Piracy generates works that are neither derivative nor wholly copies (e.g. pre-cracked software). They are not considered creative works in the current framework. They are however, considered to be infringing.

The distinction between a copy and a derivative work isn't the issue. A game is expressive content , regardless of whether it's cracked, modified, public domain, or whatever. If you distribute a pirated game, the thing you're distributing contains expressive content, so if somebody else holds copyright to that content then the use is infringing. My point is that with LLM outputs that's not true - according to the cop…

I think you're missing something really obvious here. Piracy is not expressive content. You call it a game, and therefore it must be - but it's not. It's simply an illegal good. It doesn't have to serve any purpose. It cannot be bound by copyright, due to the illegal nature. The Morris Worm wasn't copyrightable content.

Something is not required to be expressive content, to be bound under law. That's not a requirement.

The law goes out of its way to not define what "a work" is. The US copyright system instead says "the material deposited constitutes copyrightable subject matter". A copyrightable thing is defined by being copyrightable. There's a logical loop there, allowing the law to define itself, as best makes sense. It leans on Common Law, not some definition that is written down.

"an AI-created work is likely either (1) a public domain work immediately upon creation and without a copyright owner capable of asserting rights or (2) a derivative work of the materials the AI tool was exposed to during training."

AI outputs aren't considered copyrighted, as there's no person responsible. The person has the right to copyright for the creations. A machine, does not. If the most substantial efforts involved are human, such as directly wielding a tool, then the person may incur copyright on the production. But an automated process, will not. As AI stands, the most substantial direction is not supplied by the person.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Police now say it's been ruled a suicide: https://sfstandard.com/2024/12/13/key-openai-whistleblower-d... https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2024/12/13/openai-... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/openai-whistleblower-dead_n_6...

It should be taught in school that being a whistleblower requires safety preparation. Make it a woke thing or whatever, because it is something many don't give an afterthought about.

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On Reddit there’s this thing about suicide prevention. Essentially, if someone thinks that you are suicidal, they can make reddit send you a very official looking “don’t do it” message. I found that people are using it to abuse those they hate. I’ve received the message a few times when I had an argument with someone. Apparently it's a thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/questions/comments/1bp1k9h/why_do_i... There’s som…

Wow, that's the first time I'm hearing about that tactic. And it's dawning on me how egregious that is because it could be inoculating you against the very messages meant to dissuade you. Though I'm unsure how effective those messages were to begin with.

The message is not necessarily to dissuade you, but to protect Reddit.
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