Did UHC deny the CEO ambulance coverage? (they are famous as being the insurer to deny most claims in usa - 32% [1]) [1] https://www.valuepenguin.com/health-insurance-claim-denials-...
They're famous for dabbling in Medicare fraud over the years, too.
Just saw video of the shooting on X, the guy was cool as a cucumber. Racking a new round after every shot. Not a hint of desperation, fear or anxiety. He didn't even run off after shooting. https://x.com/Tr00peRR/status/1864376034465890417
A grievance will be reported upon soon. If the gunman was trying to improve society, I'm not convinced they did anything but the opposite. - sad in that regard. Good luck to the tragedy in the background, and rip Mr. Thompson.
A one off event isn't likely to change much. I think it'd take a sustained effort to make a major positive impact.
Laws are only as useful as the social contract they support.
What do you mean by this comment? Could you make your points explicit?
He means that if the state, courts and other systems don't get people justice or something you can squint at and call justice when they are wronged some fraction of those wronged will go outside the systems and seek to get even instead.
The (rare, perhaps crazy) people who shoot CEOs or armor bulldozers are what check the power of the state to ignore this part of its job.
Why would the ATF give a shit? Tell me you aren't from a hunting state without telling me.. actual estimates of private sales range from 10% (NRA) to 22% (NPSOF) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28055050/
>Why would the ATF give a shit? Tell me you aren't from a hunting state without telling me.. This trope is so tired, but since you did it, tell me you don't keep up with gun regulatory news without telling me.. The ATF has been on a rogue rampage the last 4 years.
Considering that these are legal sales between law-abiding adults, the ATF doesn't care at all. There's the perennial "they're taking all our guns!" discourse that serves to misinform everyone, and then there are basic facts that mostly pierce all the nonsense.
"Rogue rampage" indeed.. almost 10% higher than pre-covid Trump convictions and about the same level as we saw under GWB! Then again, the average person convicted in 2023 had >2 prior convictions and over 7 prior arrests so maybe these are actually just criminals? Wish everyone would decide if we should enforce laws or not.
It's one of the so-called "Four boxes of liberty[1]". When the soap, ballot, and jury boxes are no longer effective, we should not be surprised when people increasingly reach for the ammo box. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
There is a big moral and social difference between an overwhelming majority of the people and a dissatisfied group. The ammo box is not justified and should not be tolerated simply because someone doesn't get what they want. That route is a quick decent to societal collapse. That is how you end up with your incels, anarchist, communists, and Christian fundamentalists shooting anyone who doesnt agree with them.
I was not defending its use, but its existence means it could be used, and that fact acts as a sort of invisible check on what corporate/government power can realistically get away with. If the ammo box didn't exist as an option, then even in a democracy the "overwhelming majority" could do pretty much whatever it wanted to.
Do you really think that murdering the CEO is going to spin off massive reform of US Healthcare? That’s the only way I could see anyone thinking this is “good”.
Won't spin off reform, and in all likelihood, is just going to result in Fortune 500 companies doing unethical shit to begin budgeting for armed protection for their top brass.