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South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Almost everyone in Korea is completely shocked, including most people who voted for him in the presedential elections. This is in a country where no one bats an eye even when sirens go off.

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Russians, highly likely ))

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Sure, but I seem to recall the leader of the last republic was De Gaulle. The first leader of the current republic was also De Gaulle. It was just him consolidating his political base.

> I seem to recall the leader of the last republic was De Gaulle. The first leader of the current republic was also De Gaulle. No, De Gaulle created the V republic with a military coup [1]. There were troops all over France, including paratroopers in Fontainebleau at 60km from Paris [0], while the "président du conseil" of the 4th republic transmitted peacefully the power to De Gaulle, to mitigate a civil war. Wikipe…

De Gaulle was called by the president of the 4th republic to counter the military insurgents. De Gaulle had sufficient charisma and status to calm down the military.

When the military woke up again in 62 in Algiers, De Gaulle crushed them.

You got it reversed.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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How so? That may have been true a few years ago during the COVID lockdowns, but as we've recently seen, Americans will often punish that behavior heavily at the poll booth

I think that post-covid US has been more antagonistic to freedom than ever before in my lifetime, and the trend is getting worse.

Give an example

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Article 77 of the Korean Constitution: "1. When it is required to cope with a military necessity or to maintain the public safety and order by mobilization of the military forces in time of war, armed conict or similar national emergency, the President may proclaim martial law as prescribed by law. 2. Martial law shall be of two types, extraordinary martial law and precautionary martial law. 3. Under extraordinary ma…

Sorry for the slight tangent, but I noticed the "conict" typo in your quote. Selecting article 77 in the pdf you linked to selects everything but the "fl" in "conflict". How odd.

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> if the opposition is controlling the parliament, isn't that the majority and isn't the opposition controlling the president? You're confusing prime ministers in parliamentary democracies, e.g. the UK with presidents [1]. [1] https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-betwee...

The point still stands, if you control the parliament, aren’t you the majority and the other side is the opposition? Or how is it defined who is the opposition?

The president is the executive alongside the ministers. The opposition is the other parties that have an opposite view on things.

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You’re just shifting goalposts. First it’s martial law, then it gets disproven and the response is „ok, but still bad!“. Why not make a correct claim in the first place?

Martial law is the imposition of punishments without due process. In no world can one argue that being under the equivalent of house arrest is not a punishment. To impose that punishment carte-blanche on anyone who's traveled domestically is a form of martial law.

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South Korea is dying. It has the lowest birth rate in the world: ~0.78 children per woman. If you want to know what that means, take 100 people (50 men, 50 women). In 3 generations there are... 6 people. That's population collapse. Every developed nation is barreling towards this fate. It's what end stage capitalism and 5 chaebols-in-a-trenchcoat as a government looks like. The only thing preventing population collap…

If you correct for the replacement rate being 2.1, it's actually even worse than this... closer to 5 people.
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