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Re: So thieves broke into your storage unit again

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Post by RiverCrochet »

snozolli wrote: post #177
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not really the issue though (and for the record, I agree that a person found guilty of what they were arrested for 15 times should be incarcerated). The problem is: why is this person doing this, because there are at least two outcomes: 1. we lock them up, and a part of the problem is gone 2. we lock them up, and someone else steps in to do the same thing From my perspective, there's ample evidence to suggest…

we lock them up, and someone else steps in to do the same thing Crime isn't an internship program.

It is, it has the colloquial name of "hanging with the wrong crowd."

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Post by YokoZar »

istjohn wrote: post #159

The storage unit industry is one of the most awful, customer hostile industries I've encountered. It's impossible to get the local facility on the phone, publicly listed phone numbers are all redirected to a national call center where reps are unable to even accurately quote prices. TFA covers the insurance kickback scam. Then after I moved into my unit, I discovered 75% of the units in my facility could be broken in…

> The paradox is that the monthly cost of a unit will quickly exceed the value of whatever is stored there unless the items have sentimental value or are very expensive.

Sometimes, the best place to store something... is the store.

Re: So thieves broke into your storage unit again

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Post by ssl-3 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #195
tshaddox wrote: post #187

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> The paradox is that the monthly cost of a unit will quickly exceed the value of whatever is stored there unless the items have sentimental value or are very expensive. This is a tough one to manage psychologically, although it’s almost certainly also true of nearly anything you are storing in your own home. The difference of course is that home space is bundled inflexibly—you usually don’t have the option of paying…

That's why it isn't true of your home. The cost of storing an item in your home (assuming you didn't buy a bigger house just to store the thing) is 0.

The stuff I use every day (work/entertainment electronics, cooking stuff, some furniture, and clothes) can fit into a small-ish apartment easily-enough.

But the stuff I use occasionally (like camping gear and car-fixing/woodworking tools) would not fit also into that same apartment, nor would my collection of hobby-related stuff like my (small, but non-zero) collection of vintage audio and computer gear.

I mean: I'm not hoarding MicroSD cards here. I, like many others, have things that take up space.

In order to keep these seldom-used things out of the way while maintaining the hope of having a tidy, presentable home, I need a place with a garage or a basement or an extra bedroom -- or a storage facility. Those things all tend to cost extra.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #272
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #266

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If you (as a culture) manage to successfully run a fishery for 500 years and then someone invents capitalism and yourexisting mechanisms can't withstand the new morality and motives it endorses and encourages ... I am not sure that you've failed.

But there was no deep sea fishery 500 years ago? So how could any culture on Earth have been ‘successful’ at managing one 500 years ago? They may have been ‘successful’ in presuming that they could one day manage such in the distant future, but no more than that. This applies to most things, technological advancement creates new physical realities that must be adapted to…

Sure!

But then don't make the claim (as Hardin did) that common ownership of resources leads to tragedy.

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Post by aspenmayer »

cromulent wrote: post #179
floydnoel wrote: post #75

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The famous Lloyds of London started as a gambling coffee house. Gambling and insurance are closely related, and offer the same bargain: the house always wins.

> the house always wins Well, until Lloyd’s did lose a lot of money in 1991, and the Names had too much exposure. Berkshire Hathaway cover them now, I believe.

That's rich.

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Post by FireBeyond »

hansvm wrote: post #245
FireBeyond wrote: post #229

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We already have the highest incarceration rates in the developed world - I'm not sure that more people in prison is the right solution.

I think there's precedent for shipping them to Australia. It probably costs less to taxpayers, and it doesn't even harm Australians since our thieves are less dangerous than their spiders.

As someone born in the UK, who grew up in Australia, and who now lives in the US, this trope always makes me laugh...

England sent prisoners to America for nearly 70 years before sending any to Australia, mostly Virginia, Maryland and the Carolinas.

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Post by tshaddox »

jart wrote: post #265
tshaddox wrote: post #261

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How about Superfund sites, where the owners didn’t just remove valuable resources, but actively added and then left behind hazardous materials which are now the responsibility of the taxpayer?

I'm not sure what can be done when land is worth less than the cost of cleaning it. I'm sure technology will be available in the future that makes it economical. Especially as land grows more scarce.

> I'm not sure what can be done when land is worth less than the cost of cleaning it.

Financial and legal liability for the people responsible.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #284
MichaelZuo wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there was no deep sea fishery 500 years ago? So how could any culture on Earth have been ‘successful’ at managing one 500 years ago? They may have been ‘successful’ in presuming that they could one day manage such in the distant future, but no more than that. This applies to most things, technological advancement creates new physical realities that must be adapted to…

Sure! But then don't make the claim (as Hardin did) that common ownership of resources leads to tragedy.

How does that follow?

Re: So thieves broke into your storage unit again

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Post by hansvm »

FireBeyond wrote: post #286
hansvm wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's precedent for shipping them to Australia. It probably costs less to taxpayers, and it doesn't even harm Australians since our thieves are less dangerous than their spiders.

As someone born in the UK, who grew up in Australia, and who now lives in the US, this trope always makes me laugh... England sent prisoners to America for nearly 70 years before sending any to Australia, mostly Virginia, Maryland and the Carolinas.

*checks map*

That looks like the greater D.C. area. Coincidence?

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