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Yes! I am a Sun fan. But GNOME team did say they have done tons of ux studies long after SUN. https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Studies
Have they done "studies" to justify the changes they want to make or have they done real studies to find out what changes they should/should not make?
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The current version of Finder is a massive regression from what it used to be. If you don’t believe me, fire up https://macos9.app on a machine with a mouse, and try organizing / browsing some files.
The finder in what you linked was nigh-unusable for me. My impressions: - Where is the ability to easily split/tab for side-by-side directory comparison? - Every directory is opened in a new window, which makes everything even more jarring - (Do I just not know how to operate the window manager?) - Is the not grid-aligned icon position saved? This seems like a long-term usability nightmare. - How can I create somethi…
Gnome isn't perfect, but is the closest thing to Apple's minimalistic mindset, and surpasses MacOS imo. And it's customizable! If you're a power-user that likes having many toolbars, don't use gnome, there are other amazing DEs made for you The main strength of the Linux desktop is its diversity
I would say that it seems like Apple has somewhat abandoned MacOS and is instead fully focusing on iOS. For me personally Gnome UI and UX is cleaner and simpler than MacOS. At the same time there are awesome community extensions that can fine tune Gnome behavior in ways MacOS users can only dream about. I have used Gnome 2 before and while I was a bit skeptical at the launch of Gnome 3, I have embraced their approach…
In no particular order, running arch with gnome and trying to reproduce the author's complaints: - List view and view options buttons, while combined, have a visually distinct hover state, highlighting each half of the button on hover, and making it very obvious (at least to me, as a 35 year old power user) that they are different. (you can see this in his screenshots). Perhaps the author has visual issues and contra…
And that is why everyone ignores Gnome. They like what 25 years behind Mac, still struggling with navigation! ?
I couldn't agree more. The Gnome devs have a very long track record of imposing universally hated UI/UX design on people. I'd wonder why KDE isn't more popular, but I'm pretty sure the main reason is that the Gnome devs also have way better aesthetic taste than the KDE devs. Gnome simply looks much nicer in screenshots. They understand spacing. That and KDE had it's own major UI/UX fuck up with Plasma.
That's not completely true. They are hated by some users, loved by some. For example, in general, I really like what gnome does. Desktop use is not something that is useful outside starting other apps, so I like its simplicity and the fact that it gets out of the way. Default apps could use maybe a bit more features, but I generally don't find too much wrong with e.g. files. The only confusing thing for me is which h…
Glad to see someone go deep on this in a way that I've felt while using it but was unable to fully articulate why it's so bad. Again, I'll keep saying it, I'm not the biggest Apple fan in the world, but however many Gnome devs in a trenchcoat will never equal a Steve Jobs and it's weird, borderline pathetic, for them to keep trying -- when all they end up doing is changing things for the sake of changing them.
I have actually had more problems with the Mac OS finder then I have the gnome one, and all of my problems stem from answering the question “how do I go up a directory from where I am?” Never bothered to figure out the actual right way. Might be easy. But hard to figure out
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I would say that it seems like Apple has somewhat abandoned MacOS and is instead fully focusing on iOS. For me personally Gnome UI and UX is cleaner and simpler than MacOS. At the same time there are awesome community extensions that can fine tune Gnome behavior in ways MacOS users can only dream about. I have used Gnome 2 before and while I was a bit skeptical at the launch of Gnome 3, I have embraced their approach…
How much do you know about MacOS ? Mac is more customisable than Gnome. I gather best 100 gnome extensions and still find mac more customisable as in mac everything is app including extensions. And there are gazzilions of apps in mac. And 100 extensions/apps on mac works amazing, on gnome even 25 extensions causing trouble and interfering with each other. So I throw back your at word at you. “Gnome can only dream abo…
On my Arch development machine I have about 30 Gnome extensions that play nicely together.
I have also developed extensions on Gnome and I can certainly do much more extending than MacOS allows. Developer documentation for Gnome is bad, but if you dig in the code, you can make anything happen and the community is quite helpful if you are stuck and out of ideas.
Workspace navigation, window management between workspaces and on workspaces is a lot nicer and certainly more advanced on Gnome. On Gnome, extensions integrate into the control center directly, while on MacOS everything is a separate paid app that has different UI/UX. And once you have too many of those helper apps in the top bar on MacOS, they disappear between the notch on newer Macbooks. You simply can not access them anymore, they are permanently hidden until you close other apps to make space, which is just ridiculous.
And try extending the top menu or dock on MacOS. It is not possible in a nice way. I have tried and paid for many tools on MacOS and it still is bad. You simply have to accept the defaults if you want to have a good time. And those defaults are counter productive for me personally.
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How much do you know about MacOS ? Mac is more customisable than Gnome. I gather best 100 gnome extensions and still find mac more customisable as in mac everything is app including extensions. And there are gazzilions of apps in mac. And 100 extensions/apps on mac works amazing, on gnome even 25 extensions causing trouble and interfering with each other. So I throw back your at word at you. “Gnome can only dream abo…
Been using MacOS for 12 years as well and I still dislike it. On my Arch development machine I have about 30 Gnome extensions that play nicely together. I have also developed extensions on Gnome and I can certainly do much more extending than MacOS allows. Developer documentation for Gnome is bad, but if you dig in the code, you can make anything happen and the community is quite helpful if you are stuck and out of i…
Nope. Just like shell you can inject javascript into anything on mac. Every app is scriptable by AppleScript or javascript by default. App developer has the option to make it more scriptable. Mac has a perfect api for that and that is why it works well even with hundreds of extensions.
And No need for helper as in the top bar. They are meant to run as service. ICE can hide those in a smart way anyway. Which is a super cool free app. App boring-notch transforms notch into dynamic island. I never used any paid app in my life on mac. But I do donate.
And nope. Extending dock is super easy with tools like BetterTouchTool even for novice. That is why there are hundreds of dock apps. On a whim I made dock behave like dock-to-dash by injecting only 20 line of code. https://objectstack.github.io/images/Dock-To-Dash-Mac.gif
It will hide/unhide from dock.
Gnome is counter productive not Mac. As I said you need to dive deep. People use Mac when they want to get their works done or Windows to play games. Gnome is just part-time-play-thing. Linux simply doesn’t work on desktop.
