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The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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I bought an Asus netbook some years ago. The battery(easy to put or remove) died pretty soon, so I went to see the replacement new battery cost more that what I paid for the netbook. As it has a special shape is it very difficult to replace with a generic battery, and it is on purpose. I see all the manufacturers doing the same if they can. As a geek I could make it to work but 90% of the people can't.

It's the same with power bricks. My sister had her netbook brick go and the price for a new one was nearly a third the price of a new netbook.

Really? I bought a replacement brick for my original eeepc (7" screen and all) and it was something like $15 shipped.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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Which is fine and dandy, but "Pay 100% more for 'there's no other way to get a RAM upgrade'" is a pretty crappy deal.

It absolutely IS a crappy deal, but it's the only deal you're going to get unless you're willing to consider an alternative product. You can always stick the cheap ram in your clunky Dell laptop.

  > your *clunky* Dell laptop
Careful, there. Your bias is showing.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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It absolutely IS a crappy deal, but it's the only deal you're going to get unless you're willing to consider an alternative product. You can always stick the cheap ram in your clunky Dell laptop.

> your *clunky* Dell laptop Careful, there. Your bias is showing.

If Dell comes up with something as refined as the MacBook Air in the next few years, I'll be truly surprised.

HP has been working towards making better products through better design. Sony keeps working on creating these crazy, over-styled products, but they are different. Dell seems to be cranking out the same basic thing.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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I don't buy it. The traditional cycle, if Apple had a new technology first, is Apple releases it, wait a year and everybody else can do it just as well and probably cheaper. You can get Android handsets whose specs are better than the iPhone 4 in every way except the screen. If a manufacturer could out do the iPhone 4, iPad or MBP screen, they would have. Especially since they are traditionally spec driven.

There are Android phones with screen resolutions equal or superior to that of the iPhone. They may not do as well in less concrete terms like overall quality, but when it comes to common specs with numbers on them, you can do better on Android.

You cannot get an Android phone with the DPI of an iPhone 4 retina display. I'm sure you know that but you clouded the issue by referencing screen resolution.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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I used to be on the PC component treadmill for years. I'm a developer by trade and I got fed up with maintaining the hardware of my various computers, preferring to concentrate on coding. Now when it comes to hardware I prefer to buy the best I can afford, as fully specced as I can afford with the intention that the hardware should last me for 5 years. Being upgradable all of a sudden is not an issue for me anymore. It means I bought my 11" Air with the spec maxed out (yes even the expensive RAM) because I had too: it had to last me 5 years and is not user upgradeable.

I've never been happier with my current hardware choices and I dont have to fret over with processor has 0.2Ghz benefit or which ram has 100Ghz clock speed over whatever. I get to concentrate on writing servers in Go all day :)

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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That machine is 2 pounds heavier, half again as thick, and has a shorter battery life; in other words, it's more like the cheaper model 15" Pro, which is also easily upgradeable, and also an inch thick and lighter at 5.5 lb.

Please note that I cited the 420s, not 420. It's under 4 pounds, which is half a pound lighter than the new mpb. It's slimmer than my 15" old-gen mpb, although I believe the retina is slightly thinner still.

I'm sorry but isn't T4xx series 14" machines? Which is very relevant to the weight comparing to the 15 incher.

Every MBP since the unibody design is 0.95" thick(of course except for the new retina one) and the T420S is 21.2mm-26.0mm thick, how is it slimmer?

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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post #282

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It absolutely IS a crappy deal, but it's the only deal you're going to get unless you're willing to consider an alternative product. You can always stick the cheap ram in your clunky Dell laptop.

> your *clunky* Dell laptop Careful, there. Your bias is showing.

I use a Dell laptop every day. I really enjoy it. Competent and well-built machine. Good value, all that.

If I put it next to my wife's MacBook Pro, well, the only word for it is "clunky". Put a reasonably handsome man next to George Clooney and he'll look clunky, too.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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Off the top of my head (and so, perhaps wrong), I seem to recall the amount Apple is charging for going from 8 GB to 16 GB to be on the order of US$200. [1] For RAM that they are purchasing and installing in volume. That's a lot of net profit into their pocket, for each unit. And that's where I have one particular concern: Apple closing down and engorging itself on yet another market segment (upgrades). You can argue…

Many of Apple's suppliers are also competitors. Samsung, for example, supplies a lot of iPhone parts while also selling iPhone competitors. I doubt it would be that difficult for others to source an equivalent display, if they're willing to pay an equivalent price,

I think it's an extremely smart strategy from Samsung to avoid putting all their eggs in one basket. Outside the USA, Apple's market share is not as important, as it is inside. And if you think about it, it's incredible hard to market a brand as being both: Premium AND Mass-Market.

For example, a Mass-Market brand, like Casio, may produce some nice Premium products [1], and those products may sell decently. But it's hard for them to target and sell products to people who want "the best", for the simple fact that subconsciously (and sadly) price and quality are mixed, and marketing exploits that fact. It doesn't have to be "the best" technically, but subjectively (perceived value, coolness, status brand and so on).

And of course, one of the main reasons that a product is considered Premium is its exclusivity. That's the problem that Armani faces right now, with its multiple brands targeted at different segments and markets, making their brand equity dilute[2]. Now imagine what would happen if Rolex made a cheaper watch, to compete with Casio.

Before you think I'm comparing in the same terms the competence between Apple/Samsung to Rolex/Casio (that hardly compete each other), I know it's not the best analogy. At least in the smartphone and tablet market, their products overlap. But what I'm saying is that their products are targeted to different segments. Apple is clearly a Premium brand. Samsung is a Mass-Market brand. Apple takes advantage of their brand value perception, and uses products like that screen to preserve and push that brand value forward. Samsung and the others instead, are focusing in the bigger market, people that will not spend half the household's monthly income (or even 2 or 3 full household's monthly income in some countries in Europe, Americas and Asia) in a computer. [3] So, they focus in building products with the best features possible while at the same time, having the lowest possible price. When they make a premium product, they do it to position their brand against other Mass-market Brands (DELL vs ASUS, Samsung vs HTC vs Motorola). Not to compete with a Premium Brand.

If those screens are still expensive to produce in large quantities, Samsung (or any other producing them) has not the need to create a product yet to use them, simply because they sell those screens anyway. And Apple is surely paying a nice premium to keep it that way. When they can start producing those screens at larger quantities, sure, there will be others using them.

But by keeping this strategy, Samsung is able to make money from both markets (premium and mass-market), while Apple is able to keep it's brand equity, in this case, by maintaining the exclusivity of the display. It's a very profitable win-win strategy.

And unless someone has VERY deep pockets to pay the same and more than Apple to cut the deal... (and Apple has lots of cash to avoid this from happening) I doubt that someone can offer those displays right now. Hopefully in a year, it will be easier and we can have more and more displays like this.

Until then... "I doubt it would be that difficult for others to source an equivalent display" Yes, it's that difficult. :)

[1] http://www.watchshop.com/Premium-G-Shock-Watches.html [2] http://www.venturerepublic.com/resources/giorgio_armani_-_th... [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_Wide_Smartphone_Sale...

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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There is one thing that to me indicates Apple has really thought through the consequences of this new design: The fact that the SSD is socketed and thus user removable. The machine retains that most critical aspect of home or in-store servicability. Why this is important: the specific failure case where you have a faulty logic board, or any other failure that requires a full machine replacement. You still have the ab…

If it's under warranty (be it 1 year or Apple Care), aren't you not supposed to remove or replace the drive?

Not sure. I've only replaced a drive in an out-of-warranty machine, but it didn't raise any eyebrows when I brought it into an Apple store for major repairs. For what it's worth, I used the same OEM.

Re: The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable

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There are Android phones with screen resolutions equal or superior to that of the iPhone. They may not do as well in less concrete terms like overall quality, but when it comes to common specs with numbers on them, you can do better on Android.

You cannot get an Android phone with the DPI of an iPhone 4 retina display. I'm sure you know that but you clouded the issue by referencing screen resolution.

HTC Rezound and Sony Xperia S?

Does this change your point?

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