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New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Specifically in reply to the battery: I work in an enterprise environment where Macs make up about 50-60% of the installed machines. Of these, about 30-40% are laptops. In my experience, Mac laptop batteries have a high rate of failure, higher than our significantly more dated PC hardware. With the most recent revs, replacing the battery has become a huge problem, since relatively new hardware (1-2 years old) is now…

You should tell your users to unplug their Macbooks more often. If you leave them plugged in 99% of the time the battery will fail a lot faster. It should drain and recharge every once a while.

This certainly applies to the pre-2008 models but I thought that was not true for the recent models any more.

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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But the price is different. Much different.

So's the hardware, I'm not sure why that would matter much. Battery is already soldered (basically), nobody cares. Aftermarket RAM upgrades only matter insofar as their historically being way overpriced at Apple, this seems avoided for now on the new MBP ($200 for the 16GB upgrade, Crucial asks for $160 for 2x8GB SODIMM so the markup extreme — least of all on a $2200 machine), the HDD -> SSD upgrade is irrelevant as…

The SSD connector is incompatible unfortunately.

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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And what am I supposed to do if I don't want to spend $2200 on a computer that only lasts me two years? My laptops usually last me 3-4 years, at least, after a hard drive and RAM upgrade, as well as a new battery.

My laptops usually last me 3-4 years, at least, after a hard drive and RAM upgrade, as well as a new battery. New hard drive. New RAM. New battery. Probably want a new CPU, but that's not upgradable. Ditto display. Can't add Thunderbolt, USB3, or whatever nifty new interface. May as well just get a new computer at the 2+ year point, seeing as you replaced half of it and want to replace the other half. "This here's a…

I've upgraded my cpu to a core2duo p8400 cpu on my 13" thinkpad sl300, not THAT big a deal.

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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> Its a pity that there is no real operating system available for a Thinkpad. What would constitute a real operating system? Last time I checked Windows/Linux/BSD are very much real operating systems.

"What would constitute a real operating system? " If you want to know my most important point: backup and play back (bootable) EASILY.

dd..

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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> Its a pity that there is no real operating system available for a Thinkpad. What would constitute a real operating system? Last time I checked Windows/Linux/BSD are very much real operating systems.

"What would constitute a real operating system? " If you want to know my most important point: backup and play back (bootable) EASILY.

How is that even a function of the operating system?

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Sorry but you have got to be a fucking idiot to buy one to be honest if that is the case. Apple are making an attempt to turn generic computers into disposable appliances with moves like these. I would never accept a compromise like that with a computer that I owned. My rationale is as follows: If I pay £1800 for one of those machines, I expect to be able to repair common problems easily. That's a lot of money sittin…

Making components replaceable increases volume, weight, and cost. If you want replaceable components, go buy a computer for which that is a feature - and know that you will get a machine which is larger, heavier, and more expensive (all other factors being equal). Swapable components require additional casing, connectors, testing, sales channels, etc. You're not going to get a 3/4" 5-lb 7-hour 256GB-SSD 8GB-RAM MBA R…

"Go buy a computer for which that is a feature"

Great, I'll go buy ANY computer that isn't made by Apple.

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Specifically in reply to the battery: I work in an enterprise environment where Macs make up about 50-60% of the installed machines. Of these, about 30-40% are laptops. In my experience, Mac laptop batteries have a high rate of failure, higher than our significantly more dated PC hardware. With the most recent revs, replacing the battery has become a huge problem, since relatively new hardware (1-2 years old) is now…

You should tell your users to unplug their Macbooks more often. If you leave them plugged in 99% of the time the battery will fail a lot faster. It should drain and recharge every once a while.

I can't find any reference anywhere that what you say is true, can you point me in the right direction please? As far as I know, the complete opposite is true for the Li-ion batteries that Apple uses, each discharge reduces its life.

Cadmium batteries have a memory effect and need to be drained every once in a while but Apple doesn't use those.

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

#289

Sorry but you have got to be a fucking idiot to buy one to be honest if that is the case. Apple are making an attempt to turn generic computers into disposable appliances with moves like these. I would never accept a compromise like that with a computer that I owned. My rationale is as follows: If I pay £1800 for one of those machines, I expect to be able to repair common problems easily. That's a lot of money sittin…

I am just surprised that people are surprised about Macs being hard to upgrade.

They have always been a PIA to upgrade since Day 1:

http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story...

Re: New Apple Macbook Pro RAM is soldered to the motherboard | Ian Chilton

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Serious computing? Like gaming? Last I checked typing text files and compiling them is more serious than most users and doesn't require massive clusters to accomplish.

If Apple gets their way, typing text and compiling it to code and running it on your appliance will become illegal. How often do you run custom code on your other appliances? Exactly. There will simply be no expectation of running custom code on a "computer" once it is turned into an appliance. Look at iPad. It's more powerful than PCs of the 90s yet no one even expects to run their custom code on it. This is where M…

It won't even matter by then because the Illuminati will have already started the New World Order and we'll all be in secret FEMA camps.
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