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Post by qaq »

borski wrote: post #196
qaq wrote: post #166

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Sure and many others but outside of CrowdStrike most are not very competitive and being a fresh entry has it's benefits.

“Fresh” is the key word. You need to have fresh ideas, and I am certain Wiz doesn’t, as it relates to endpoint security. I agree Crowdstrike sucks. I’ve been beating that drum for the better part of a decade. Building a “new crowdstrike” by a different name won’t win.

Honestly you just need to have good marketing and a passable product. The "secret" none talks much about all top tier APT groups run labs and test their exploit families agains all top tier Endpoint solutions. So none of them can stop a determined well resourced adversary but that not in any of the marketing booklets.

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Post by borski »

qaq wrote: post #281
borski wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Fresh” is the key word. You need to have fresh ideas, and I am certain Wiz doesn’t, as it relates to endpoint security. I agree Crowdstrike sucks. I’ve been beating that drum for the better part of a decade. Building a “new crowdstrike” by a different name won’t win.

Honestly you just need to have good marketing and a passable product. The "secret" none talks much about all top tier APT groups run labs and test their exploit families agains all top tier Endpoint solutions. So none of them can stop a determined well resourced adversary but that not in any of the marketing booklets.

Oh, of course. I was that well-resourced adversary (through the USG) for some time. :)

I just mean that if you want to own the market, you will not be able to do that unless you provide something fresh, and it will be a race to the bottom otherwise, in the long run. The same as dynamic web app scanning is today.

At Wiz's valuation, if they were to enter that space, they couldn't be 'just another player.' They'd have to own the space. And I don't think they can do that purely through marketing, as others are already much more entrenched.

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Post by sieabahlpark »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #233
6th wrote: post #223

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Meteorites crash & burn, honestly, what is a "meteoritic rise"?

Not understanding an idiom is something you should just discuss with ChatGPT, it'll set you straight, show you the ropes, right your ship, and whatnot.

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Post by teqsun »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #260
forrestthewoods wrote: post #232

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I don't know what Active Directory, LDAP, Kerberos, or AD DC are. I've at least heard of Active Directory though! The programming industry is vast. I've never touched webdev so I don't know countless things that most programmers know.

Best part is, Active Directory, is not webdev related at all. :)

Active Directory, is not webdev related at all.

If you work on internal company systems in a Microsoft environment it often can be.

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Post by gregors »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #260
forrestthewoods wrote: post #232

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I don't know what Active Directory, LDAP, Kerberos, or AD DC are. I've at least heard of Active Directory though! The programming industry is vast. I've never touched webdev so I don't know countless things that most programmers know.

Best part is, Active Directory, is not webdev related at all. :)

It can be when you're supporting AD authentication on an intranet site. I did a bunch of these for government type web apps. Not the most fun to be sure.

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Post by cholantesh »

underdeserver wrote: post #269
synicalx wrote: post #255

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Genuinely asking here; have you really never heard the phrase "meteoric rise" before?

It's easy to miss the difference between "meteoric rise" and the OP's typo, "meteoritic rise".

Also easy to recognize that it was a typo and interpret it as intended.

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

cholantesh wrote: post #287
underdeserver wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to miss the difference between "meteoric rise" and the OP's typo, "meteoritic rise".

Also easy to recognize that it was a typo and interpret it as intended.

Indeed even gpt-3.5-turbo recognizes the typo and gives a proper explanation. Can't wait until everyone has an LLM baked into their device that makes submitting stupid content a two step verification.
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