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Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not an Outlook user, and I really dislike the product. But I wish the feature that you can write say @joel to get someone’s attention in large email threads with too many on CC would have been adopted by more mail clients.

Something like an iMessage of mail. Surely there’s an RFC for that right?

I've always thought about just making a chat client app using email as the underlying standard. Strip out CSS and signatures (and funnel spam/marketing to a separate UI) and bam, you have possibly the most widely-interoperable chat client ever made.

The ostensible "problem" with this would probably be "email is too slow for real-time chat!" But really, how much difference does a few seconds make? And modern connections/tech make me think that idea might have to be reevaluated anyways.

It wouldn't be a business but I could see such an app becoming quite popular.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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post #239

In an outlook only company, reactions make a ton of sense. They save tons of "great, thank you " emails. Of course you can still send real thank you emails when you're genuinely thankful!

I literally had to set up a “Congratulations / Congrats” filter to auto-delete those emails because they were so frequent and numerous when various accomplishments across the org were announced. The party popper emoji at least makes that far more tolerable.

I read that as “party pooper” - I want that as a reaction emoji.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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post #142

Apple added the same thing for iMessage/SMS. It worked as expected if the group message was all Apple users. But if you were the unfortunate person outside the ecosystem, you would get spammed with ‘{person} liked “{message}”’. In some cases, people would react to the reaction leading to some ridiculous chains of text.

I like how you word this in the past tense, it still happens to this day. I live outside the states but keep a google voice number and in my family's group chat I still get these all the time. I've mostly (miraculously) moved them to Signal, but they revert to their SMS ways occasionally.

RCS is finally coming to iOS though, so soon this should be resolved.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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I don't have strong feelings about this, but can someone please change the emoji palette in Teams? I feel like I'm typing in Club Penguin chat.

I wonder if tech nostalgia has reached the point where someone has built a Club Penguin chat clone.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#285

I don't have strong feelings about this, but can someone please change the emoji palette in Teams? I feel like I'm typing in Club Penguin chat.

I wonder if tech nostalgia has reached the point where someone has built a Club Penguin chat clone.

Oh no, the truth is worse than I imagined: https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-shuts-down-club-pengu...

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Not everyone embraced it. I still use a plain-text email client.

In case you haven't realized, you're the odd one out, today, in 2024. I don't mean this in a negative way - I just mean that you're out of what's usual.

I always wonder about these "you're in the minority" responses. Why is that an important point? Also, pretty much everybody on HN is "in the minority". We're a pretty narrow demographic compared to the general population.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#287
post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like an iMessage of mail. Surely there’s an RFC for that right?

I've always thought about just making a chat client app using email as the underlying standard. Strip out CSS and signatures (and funnel spam/marketing to a separate UI) and bam, you have possibly the most widely-interoperable chat client ever made. The ostensible "problem" with this would probably be "email is too slow for real-time chat!" But really, how much difference does a few seconds make? And modern connectio…

Something like https://delta.chat/ ? There was also a project/protocol called Chat-over-IMAP (COI): https://github.com/coi-dev/coi-specs

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#288
post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like an iMessage of mail. Surely there’s an RFC for that right?

I've always thought about just making a chat client app using email as the underlying standard. Strip out CSS and signatures (and funnel spam/marketing to a separate UI) and bam, you have possibly the most widely-interoperable chat client ever made. The ostensible "problem" with this would probably be "email is too slow for real-time chat!" But really, how much difference does a few seconds make? And modern connectio…

> I've always thought about just making a chat client app using email as the underlying standard.

I'm happy to report that this already exists: https://delta.chat/

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#289
post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally had to set up a “Congratulations / Congrats” filter to auto-delete those emails because they were so frequent and numerous when various accomplishments across the org were announced. The party popper emoji at least makes that far more tolerable.

I read that as “party pooper” - I want that as a reaction emoji.

Have a few too many drinks at the christmas party and go for it.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#290
post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not an Outlook user, and I really dislike the product. But I wish the feature that you can write say @joel to get someone’s attention in large email threads with too many on CC would have been adopted by more mail clients.

Something like an iMessage of mail. Surely there’s an RFC for that right?

> Surely there’s an RFC for that right?

Indeed, there is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9078

It's used by Delta Chat (IM over email).

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