Isn't it illegal to copy documents off of a system without permission in many jurisdictions?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030 CFAA (a)(2)(C) In many cases, couldn't this be argued to exceed authorized access to a protected computer?
Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#282This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…
I'm imagining this happening to someone on a highly metered connection and blowing through gigs of their limited monthly upload budget before realizing their OS has just gone rogue on them. Treating everyone like they have an unlimited bandwidth budget and greedily using it without permission is just awful behavior.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). I've been a Linux user for decades through some dark days and some "hard" distros, and I would call that "very difficult". Part of the difficulty is knowing what you don't know, and that absolutely qualifies.
"windows 11 local account" in Google has this bypass in the first result. I Googled things when I setup various Linux distros as well, and I didn't consider that to be very difficult. For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time, including "can I do X in Y". I guess I'm the one out of touch, sorry.
I don't think anyone here is saying that they personally would have had difficulty installing Windows without a Microsoft account. I've done so myself.
What we're doing is empathizing with people who don't typically post on tech forums—people like my dad who install Windows on their own but don't regularly dig deep into the system internals. When I went through the process of installing Windows without setting up a Microsoft account I was appalled by how hard Microsoft is working to make sure that most people don't figure it out, and that was back in the days when all you had to do was not connect to Wi-Fi.
It's great that you'd be able to figure it out, but that's in spite of Microsoft's best efforts to hide the path.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#284Meanwhile they have crippled the native file history and backup options of the OS. I was desperate until I found an excellent multiplatform open source project for backups called Kopia! Highly recommended, even entry level users can work with it.
Copying your files to the cloud is not a backup when deleting a file means it's gone forever. What if you accidentally delete some files and need them back? You need a real backup for that, not a cloud.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go Mac. The GUI is stable and boring: the Finder hasn’t changed much in years. It’s Unix underneath so you can use command-line stuff or dusty programs like Emacs. You can now pick up a MacBook Air at Walmart for $700. Considering the inflation we’ve had, that’s actually reasonable. It will do the Unixy stuff well. My Mac is of this same class and I’m happy with it.
I'm very happy with my Mac, but... while the key point here is the unasked for enabling of OneDrive... Untangling synced Docs and Desktop folders between multiple Macs, and trying to revert to something akin to a default and reconcile what is in various folders, not pleasant.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
"windows 11 local account" in Google has this bypass in the first result. I Googled things when I setup various Linux distros as well, and I didn't consider that to be very difficult. For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time, including "can I do X in Y". I guess I'm the one out of touch, sorry.
> For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time I don't think anyone here is saying that they personally would have had difficulty installing Windows without a Microsoft account. I've done so myself. What we're doing is empathizing with people who don't typically post on tech forums—people like my dad who install Windows on their own but don't regularly dig deep into the syste…
I'm generally either at work or just done work when I'm on HN so I'm in "work mode". The next time I'm called on for family tech support on a Sunday, I'll think back to this thread and be in a better position to empathize with a non-techie view.
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go Mac. The GUI is stable and boring: the Finder hasn’t changed much in years. It’s Unix underneath so you can use command-line stuff or dusty programs like Emacs. You can now pick up a MacBook Air at Walmart for $700. Considering the inflation we’ve had, that’s actually reasonable. It will do the Unixy stuff well. My Mac is of this same class and I’m happy with it.
Very happy for people who are pleased with macOS and Apple in general. Well, I guess realistically, I'm kind of happy for whoever is actually pleased with their computer in general, even if somehow for someone that is Windows. That said, I just want to make it abundantly clear: I can barely even tolerate the macOS desktop for a fraction of my day. I hesitate to rant about every single thing that pisses me off about i…
But I use my MBP without a mouse because the synergy between the OS and hardware is so nice. Window and desktop management in particular.
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…
Installing a mainstream distro on modern hardware (AMD graphics at least; I haven't tested Intel, Nvidia) is way easier and more relaxed than doing the same for Windows 11. Then installing apps, even with WingetUI it's far easier on Linux than trying to find and install apps on Windows... God help me, I hope Microsoft have learnt how to actually do window management this time to make all their crap worthwhile.
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I have been an open source developer for twenty years.
You're woefully out of date at this point with your experience. The vast majority of the visible polish to make desktop Linux viable has been done in the last 4 years. I started using it full-time in 2020 and since then the progress has been remarkable. Just yesterday I upgraded to KDE Plasma 6.1 and it's truly incredible how well done it is. It's better than windows at this point.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#290This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…
It's not possible to reverse. Once you send information to an online service, you should assume it'll become public domain in only a matter of years. Digital information is permanent. Hacks happen. Crypto will be broken. Culture will change. Governments will most likely even pass laws requiring it. That's why tech wants this so bad they're willing to do what I thought only cyber criminals would do ten years ago.