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Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees
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#282Does someone know why the employees wanted him back so badly? Must be very few employees actually upset with him and his way of doing things.
I recall that only some wanted him back, and the split was product/research—the “let’s get rich!” types wanted him back, the “let’s do AI!” types adamantly didn’t.
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#283There’s a recurring pattern here of OpenAI getting caught red handed doing bad things and then being all like “Oh it was just a misunderstanding, nothing more, we’ll get on to fixing that ASAP… nothing to see here…” It’s becoming too much to just be honest oversights.
It's the correct counter-strategy to people who believe that you shouldn't attribute to malice what could be attributed to stupidity (and who don't update that prior for their history with a particular actor). And it works in part because things often are accidents - enough to give plausible deniability and room to interpret things favorably if you want to. I've seen this from the inside. Here are two HN threads abou…
> you shouldn't attribute to malice what could be attributed to stupidity
It's worth noting that Hanlon’s razor was not originally intended to be interpreted as a philosophical aphorism in the same way as Occam’s:
> The term ‘Hanlon’s Razor’ and its accompanying phrase originally came from an individual named Robert. J. Hanlon from Scranton, Pennsylvania as a submission for a book of jokes and aphorisms, published in 1980 by Arthur Bloch.
https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/philosophy/hanlon...
Hopefully we can collectively begin to put this notion to rest.
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#284What surprises me about these stories surrounding openAI is how they apologize while lying and downplaying any blame. Do they expect anybody to believe they didn’t know about clawback clauses?
OpenAI is deeply sorry.
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#285Scam Altman strikes again. And if you don’t believe he knew about this, then you are the fool.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure and anyone who has worked in a toxic workplace knows exactly what it means to require a direct path to leadership to resolve an issue instead of just resolving it.
I also notice he conditions it on "any former employee." What about current employees who may be affected by the same legalese? Either way, I can imagine a subtext of "step forward and get a target on your back."
Current employees rarely sign exit agreements, since by exiting they stop being employees.
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mob that Vox represents these days is miniscule
It’s remarkable to see the hoi polloi to stand by CEOs and big corporations, rather than defending the few parts of the media that stand for regular workers.
It's not about taking sides, it's about not caring. Everyone is tired of getting worked up over super rich CEOs being "aggressive" to their very rich employees and your,"if you're not with us, you're against us" attitude.
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#288I find it hard to believe that Sam didn’t know about something that draconian in something so sensitive as NDAs that affects to equity. He’s not exactly new to this whole startup thing and getting equity right is not a small part of that
He was obviously lying, and he probably also knew people would not believe it. I just don't know why he still chose to do it.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
IANAL but isn’t it illegal to execute something in the event of a document not being signed?
I expect not... provided it's a thing you could do anyway (and it isn't extortion or something).
You could claim you gave someone a contract and they didn’t sign it, so now they owe u a million bucks
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think it’s only AI influencers that do this. I’ve noticed people use lowercase as some sort of power move. Like they’re so busy and important they don’t care about conventions.
Ironically, if you just kept the default keyboard settings on your phone, it will capitalize words for you. So these people changes the default settings to create this impression?
I turn that stuff off because I don't like my keyboard automatically doing things for me.