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Post by throwup238 »

jtolmar wrote: post #267
typpo wrote: post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I think it's just hype fatigue. There's genuinely impressive progress being made, but there are also a lot of new models coming out promising way more than they can deliver. Even the Google AI announcements, which used to be carefully tailored to keep expectations low and show off their own limitations, now read more like marketing puff pieces. I'm sure a lot of the HN crowd likes to pretend we're all perfectly disce…

It's made all the worse by just being a giant waitlist. Sora is still no where to be seen three months later, GPT-4o's conversational features aren't widely rolled out yet, and Google's AI releases have been waitlist after waitlist after waitlist.

Companies can either get peopled hyped or have never-ending georestricted waitlists, they can't have their cake and eat it too.

Re: Veo

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Post by qingcharles »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

I can see using these video generators to create video storyboards. Especially if you can drop in a scribbled sketch and a prompt for each tile.

Re: Veo

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Post by TecoAndJix »

hbn wrote: post #186
TecoAndJix wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a paid account and can do voice to voice on the iOS app as of last night.

The realtime one they showed yesterday or the one that's existed forever where it's just a voice-to-text input and TTS output taking turns?

I feel silly now. I downloaded the app after the announcement (I'm a desktop user) and it looked identical to the one they show in the sarcasm video. When I asked it, I was told it was not the new feature announced yesterday. Still a lot of fun!

Edit - it does list the new model in my app at least

Re: Veo

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Post by nineteen999 »

ryandrake wrote: post #77
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very noticeable. Watching movies from the 1970s is positively serene for me, vs the shot time on modern films often leaves me wonder, "wait, what just happened there?" And I'm someone who is fine playing fast action video games. Can't imagine what it's like if you're older or have sensory processing issues.

Obligatory: Liam Neeson jumps over a fence in 6 seconds, with 14 cuts[1]. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM

Is it Liam Neeson, or his stunt double?

Re: Veo

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Post by betternet77 »

localfirst wrote: post #180
typpo wrote: post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

We have to take account that this community (good chunk have stakes in YC and a lot to gain from secondary shares in OpenAI) and platform is going to favor its own and be aware that Sam Altman is the golden boy of YC's founder after all. So of course you are going to see snarky comments and straight up denial in the competition. We saw that yesterday in the comments with the release of GPT4o in anticipation of Gemini…

Yup, there's a significant anti-Google spin in HN, twitter. For example, here's paulg claiming that Cruise handles driving around cyclists better than Waymo [1], obviously not true to anyone who's used both services

[1] https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1360341492850708481

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Post by kemitchell »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #60
inasio wrote: post #34

From a 2014 Wired article [0]: "The average shot length of English language films has declined from about 12 seconds in 1930 to about 2.5 seconds today" I can see more real-world impact from this (and/or Sora) than most other AI tools [0] https://www.wired.com/2014/09/cinema-is-evolving/

This is very noticeable. Watching movies from the 1970s is positively serene for me, vs the shot time on modern films often leaves me wonder, "wait, what just happened there?" And I'm someone who is fine playing fast action video games. Can't imagine what it's like if you're older or have sensory processing issues.

Enjoy some Tarkovsky.

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Post by indigodaddy »

throwup238 wrote: post #281
jtolmar wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just hype fatigue. There's genuinely impressive progress being made, but there are also a lot of new models coming out promising way more than they can deliver. Even the Google AI announcements, which used to be carefully tailored to keep expectations low and show off their own limitations, now read more like marketing puff pieces. I'm sure a lot of the HN crowd likes to pretend we're all perfectly disce…

It's made all the worse by just being a giant waitlist. Sora is still no where to be seen three months later, GPT-4o's conversational features aren't widely rolled out yet, and Google's AI releases have been waitlist after waitlist after waitlist. Companies can either get peopled hyped or have never-ending georestricted waitlists, they can't have their cake and eat it too.

Isn’t there a lot of positive forward motion and fruitfulness in the current state of the open source llama-3 community?

Re: Veo

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Post by rmbyrro »

typpo wrote: post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I hope they didn't mess this one up with ideologically driven non-sense, like they did with Gemini.

Re: Veo

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Post by [deleted] »

typpo wrote: post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

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