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North Korea doesn't have a great history with respect to foreign "guests"[1]. Here's a choice quote: >The four lived together in a two-bedroom house outside of Pyongyang, where they were forced to study the writings of then-leader Kim Il Sung and were subject to regular beatings. They were also featured prominently in propaganda magazines and movies. [1] https://www.npr.org/2023/07/19/1188656665/travis-king-north-...
Totally agree, but I'll point out they entered as technically enemy combatants, not with a visa. And dresnok said the opposite and retired fat and with alcohol cirrhotic liver and a nice stolen wife and downtown apartment, which is far more than he would've got in USA as such a lazy, stupid, criminal that he was. He even become a local celebrity as a movie star playing as a white devil.
North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max series
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If it's possible to accidentally pay north Korea that should be the fault of whatever financial institution (which is held to far more KYC and AML than animators) caused that to happen, presuming it went through the financial system. HBO likely had no mens rea beyond cash flow out animation flow in. If I can't trust the bank to know more about the UBO of some rando after KYC what the hell are we doing this for?
That’s kind of the point: these companies are using outsourcing to avoid the expense of obligations they would have if they did things in house. It’s the same way we end up seeing workers being mistreated or placed in risky situations on behalf of major American companies who would never risk that in a domestic factory with their name on it. A good outcome of this would be more restrictions on outsourcing to China si…
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> How guilty you are is a function of how good a job the state department thinks you're doing trying to avoid sanctions violations. Is the standard for this codified in clear language anywhere, or is it merely based on the whims of some federal prosecutor/judge? If I make digital watches, and I buy coin cell batteries from a supplier who buys battery precursors from a supplier who buys LiCoO2 from a manufacturer who…
Feds have 99+% conviction rate and infinite money and time, meanwhile you sit in cage and deal with frozen accounts while trying to pay your attorney. They imprisoned weev for doing arithmetic on wget'ing a public website. Worst sin is angering the gods. I would imagine most the time theyll probably just ask nicely for you to stop, then bury you if you don't, but for political or convenient targets they seem fine goi…
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The hyperbole isn’t helping your argument here. Weev spent time brute-forcing collection of personal information which they discussed using for phishing, manipulating AT&T’s stock price, and potentially shorting the stock: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/01/goatse-security-trol... They were too bumbling to actually do anything that serious but being too broke to run a stock scam isn’t exactly a great character t…
Its not hyperbole, you're just using misguided rhetoric of the prosecution. Weev has escaped to Ukraine in any case, those same bumbling idiots making your argument had their conviction dropped on appeal.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/appeals-court-re...
It’s certainly possible that a court might have found his actions did not violate the relevant laws, but that was not the case in the first trial where he had full opportunity to challenge the prosecution’s claims. You might characterize that as “misguided rhetoric” but that should be your cue to ask whether it’s really true that you understand the situation better than his real legal team.
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Its not hyperbole, you're just using misguided rhetoric of the prosecution. Weev has escaped to Ukraine in any case, those same bumbling idiots making your argument had their conviction dropped on appeal.
His appeal was decided on a technicality over where the case was brought: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/appeals-court-re... It’s certainly possible that a court might have found his actions did not violate the relevant laws, but that was not the case in the first trial where he had full opportunity to challenge the prosecution’s claims. You might characterize that as “misguided rhetoric” but that should…
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Totally agree, but I'll point out they entered as technically enemy combatants, not with a visa. And dresnok said the opposite and retired fat and with alcohol cirrhotic liver and a nice stolen wife and downtown apartment, which is far more than he would've got in USA as such a lazy, stupid, criminal that he was. He even become a local celebrity as a movie star playing as a white devil.
It’s not like people are regularly entering as anything other than defectors and the one guys wife said she was tricked into going there and held against her will.
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It's also wild that it somehow makes financial sense to outsource a core input into your product. A company that makes animations outsourcing animation makes as much sense to me as a software company outsourcing engineering. Though we do have a plane company that outsources making planes, but that's going some sort of way right now...
Oooh I can try tackling a bit of this (I'll try not to ramble... ) But anyway studios have been outsourcing animation work to Asian countries for a while now. You might have seen some of the work product from one of the larger Japanese animation studios: TMS Enterainment who has worked on things like Batman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, The New Batman Adventures in addition to shows like Tiny Toon Adventures a…
https://www.today.com/popculture/simpsons-rides-seoul-train-...
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#288The few times I was involved in some outsourcing the outsourcing company was contractually obliged to actually be the one doing the work. Not that folks might not cheat and get away with it, but there were financial implications and a somewhat close working relationship that meant that ... it would have been hard to fake. In this case does the original company just not care at all?
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Classic 'two steps removed' syndrome. "I told X to get it done. What X did to get it done is not my fault/responsibility."
What do you mean with "syndrome"? Of course business customers can not be held responsible for what other businesses do. If Amazon buys floor tiles for their factories from a company that provides floor tiles to many other companies, how can Amazon be held responsible for any of their unethical practices? Or is it the faith of hackers that any misdoing in the world should always be traced back and blamed on a tech gi…
So why is it different if they sell me floor tiles made with slave labor?
Global retailers like H&M and IKEA do do audits of their supply chain to try to stop labor abuse (although how effective they are at that is up to debate)
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It's also wild that it somehow makes financial sense to outsource a core input into your product. A company that makes animations outsourcing animation makes as much sense to me as a software company outsourcing engineering. Though we do have a plane company that outsources making planes, but that's going some sort of way right now...
Software companies don't outsource engineering in your country?