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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by Wytwwww »

antisthenes wrote: post #222
Wytwwww wrote: post #126

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> and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy That's like deciding to never try beer after seeing some people getting blackout drunk. Of course, it's your choice and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but still a weird argument to make. A lot of things when taken to the extreme can lead to very negative outcomes, not exactly a good reason to penaliz…

> That's like deciding to never try beer after seeing some people getting blackout drunk. Out of all reasons to never try beer, this actually seems like a pretty good one? If my #1 reason would be seeing a drunk driver crash, then this would be a solid #2. I'm not one to go moralize other people's use of substances, but it's also weird for me to read your take on it. Those are very common and good reasons for people…

I might sound quite judgmental (and maybe a bit awful) but I can't think of another way to phrase it: but unless you have a history of substance abuse that only makes sense if you have a very strong fear of not being able to control yourself if you try that substance and become instantly addicted to it (which isn't at all rational).

Most people are perfectly capable of consuming alcohol/weed in moderation without doing any major harm to people surrounding them or themselves.

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Post by The_Colonel »

WHYLEE1991 wrote: post #234
hayst4ck wrote: post #199

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I've watched a fair number of weed smoker's lives (~10) and they fall into two distinct categories. One set smoke weed and then partake in creative, explorative, or otherwise effort filled pursuits. Generally I feel that weed has likely improved their lives. The other set smoke weed and consume... consume tv, consume video games, consume food, consume music. These people seem to fall into a slump that weed seems to p…

I think we overstate how interesting people are in general. Maybe those people would've just been boring and consumed media in ways you don't seem to approve of sober otherwise?

I think you miss subtlety in the post you're reacting to.

Weed makes consumption more enjoyable, therefore you consume more than you'd consume without weed, at the opportunity cost of doing other things. Which in general makes you more boring.

I've been around stoner friends a lot (for most of them it was a phase in life which they got out of before ~30) - no matter how boring / interesting they were before / after weed, during their weed days they were more boring than during their non-weed years. Weed makes you content just sitting at home while otherwise you'd rather seek some excitement outside.

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Post by The_Colonel »

ddorian43 wrote: post #156
jll29 wrote: post #103

I watched other people smoke cannabis, and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy. I decided to NEVER try this, and to this day I have no regrets; I enjoy being in full control of my senses (I also do not drink alcohol and do not smoke). The only thing hallucinating in my place is neural language models that I do research on. However, I do support the legal…

Canabis doesn't cause hallucionations. It is often a misconception. They were doing something else most probably.

From personal experience, it is hallucinogenic. I mean it's not like you're seeing things which don't exist, but both visual and auditory perceptions can get deformed, a bit like what LSD does. Combined that with making me significantly dumber and having literally 5-second memory span, I get very anxious / paranoid since I misinterpret things. (I consume weed very rarely as a result)

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Post by The_Colonel »

chimeracoder wrote: post #10
blueflow wrote: post #4

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This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US.

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US. It doesn't explain the difference, no, since the same is true about the US. In most states, consumption of most drugs is not a crime - possession, production, distribution, sale, and trafficking are the actual crimes prosecuted.

Not sure about Germany, but even possession (of small quantities) is decriminalized in many European countries.

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Post by arp242 »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #82
arp242 wrote: post #57

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It's not about pollution, it's about smell.

So, it's not about a meaningful harm, it's about a subjective preference?

That kind of dismissive attitude is exactly how these sort of things become a problem.

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Post by chimeracoder »

The_Colonel wrote: post #285
chimeracoder wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US. It doesn't explain the difference, no, since the same is true about the US. In most states, consumption of most drugs is not a crime - possession, production, distribution, sale, and trafficking are the actual crimes prosecuted.

Not sure about Germany, but even possession (of small quantities) is decriminalized in many European countries.

> Not sure about Germany

The title of this post is " Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany".

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Post by georgeplusplus »

Gigachad wrote: post #197
georgeplusplus wrote: post #195

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My main issue since legalization is I find the smell disgusting. It also imbues and latches itself onto to whatever is around you. Now legalization has people smoking it in my apartment complex or at restaurants and the smell just lingers around my house or on your clothes when your near it. And then Every weed smoker I brought this up to told me tough luck.

Same problem with cigarette smoke though.

Is this supposed to be in defense of weed?

At least cigarette smell is agreed to be distasteful around others.

Smokers have gotten better at making sure they don’t smoke right in front of your face. The amount of assholes I’ve seen light up weed in front of you though and then tell you to piss of when politely asking them to smoke somewhere else trumps the cigarette smokers by far

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Post by buzzert »

zug_zug wrote: post #212

Reading this thread there are clearly a lot of HN users who are fairly out-of-touch with weed. Which is totally fine, but in case you do decide at some point you want to try it here's what I'd throw out there for you: I think almost everybody can enjoy it, perhaps in the top 5% of safest drugs of all (cannot die from any amount, no interactions I know of, no hangover). I think it will replace alcohol as people learn…

Any other addictive drugs you could recommend?
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