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Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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post #133

We were told that the boycotts last year were the end of reddit, or at least a substantial brain drain. Reddit was going to be a lawless wasteland because no mod would accept tending the garden anymore. Reddit is now a public company with a CEO that just got a huge compensation package while mods still work for free. Far from lawless, far from being a wasteland. Even the hacker community is still using reddit despite…

It's just so much better than anything else even despite it all. Which, honestly, is perplexing. It doesn't seem like it would take much capital to replicate Reddit pre-enshittification, but nobody seems to even be trying. I guess nobody can imagine making money off of a less shitty Reddit. Maybe the things about it that suck for users are the only things that make business people excited.

Lots of people tried (voat comes to mind), but they ran into the same advertiser pressure monetization problem that pushed reddit to become the abomination that it is today. For whatever reason, hosting is expensive, and too few people are interested in making it truly accessible.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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post #160

Tested, and ... no? I tried two different VPNs, currently on NordVPN ... no issue accessing Reddit. And I get that it's cool to bash Reddit on HN, but the sense that "I don't visit sites like that ... I exclusively visit HN" is really weird. For what it's worth I have an 18 Year Club account on Reddit and I'm still active.

It's not a perfect "block every VPN ip setup". See this for the screen you get when it's blocking: https://imgur.com/a/3cDv851 Perhaps when they detect abuse (screen scraping folks trying to avoid the API costs) from these shared IPs?

It is not just shared IPs, I have a personal VPN/proxy that only I use (although in an IP range that likely includes shared VPNs) and it is blocked. It could be that they are blocking all "non-residential" IP addresses and the VPNs that work are using botnets (or some other way they get "residential" IP addresses) to route traffic.

My memory isn't that great and I rarely look at reddit (just the occasional search results) but I think there might have been a similar block on old for a bit earlier (closer to when the block on the main domain started).

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also add https://tildes.net

This is a website for people who think reddit is too conservative for them.

Really? My impression is that everyone is welcome. The only way I could imagine someone ending having a bad time there is to be hostile to other users.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t speak to what the GP is talking about here, but Correct The Record was a SuperPAC whose purpose was to “…fight online harassment aimed at Clinton and her supporters by staying positive.” [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/correct...

Appreciate it. So it's a "nothingburger" to borrow parlance!

Looks like you got to the bottom of it. Good luck with your "democracy."

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Short Reddit. Join Lobste.rs. I got locked out of the whole site, essentially because I use multiple accounts for anonymity reasons (as many do, given that almost all Reddit clients support it) combined with the fact that I accidentally posted to a subreddit from a different account than one I had been banned on, on that subreddit. (I'd literally forgotten. The reason doesn't matter, because even a single untoward or…

I didn't realize my email address wasn't in my profile. I'm: {name} at {outlook}

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

#286

Short Reddit. Join Lobste.rs. I got locked out of the whole site, essentially because I use multiple accounts for anonymity reasons (as many do, given that almost all Reddit clients support it) combined with the fact that I accidentally posted to a subreddit from a different account than one I had been banned on, on that subreddit. (I'd literally forgotten. The reason doesn't matter, because even a single untoward or…

I didn't realize my email address wasn't in my profile. I'm: {name} at {outlook}

Sent!

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

#287
I quit Reddit and use HN exclusively. I miss the forum days, early Reddit, and feeling of community. Is there anyplace to go these days, aside from here of course, that has quality content with good moderation on a diverse set of topics?

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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So if you don’t like a place in the real world, do you vandalize it or just not go there?

Are you intentionally ignoring the fact that from day one a user had the right to edit by adding to or subtracting any part of their content or to delete the entire comment? How is this vandalization? This is user control, the same level of control granted on a site that was built for users to post on and discuss any subject - free speech was a keystone principle until some bad actors couldn't stop posting trash and…

He said he was modifying the content to add useless messages and song lyrics. How is that not trolling and just plain juvenile behavior?

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between deleting a comment and purposefully posting meaningless junk.

You're right, the latter is funnier. Like I said, the more it's weakened the faster people will move on from it and let it fully die. For now it's only spiritually dead.

Yes if you are 12 and posting to 4Chan it might be funny

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you intentionally ignoring the fact that from day one a user had the right to edit by adding to or subtracting any part of their content or to delete the entire comment? How is this vandalization? This is user control, the same level of control granted on a site that was built for users to post on and discuss any subject - free speech was a keystone principle until some bad actors couldn't stop posting trash and…

He said he was modifying the content to add useless messages and song lyrics. How is that not trolling and just plain juvenile behavior?

>He said...

That was me. I know there are a lot of comments and replies to comments here so it's easy to lose track of who did what to who.

I think if you read my replies in this thread you can begin to understand why it is not trolling or juvenile behavior, it's just me exercising control over the content that I posted, on my own time, following all the rules that reddit established when they launched.

This is a feature. Like I mentioned, all the content that I have ever posted is likely to be indexed in someone's archive somewhere whether reddit controls that archive or not. There are too many players in that space and they have been active for years with publicly available tools to manage all the grunt work for anyone who wanted to download it all and slog through it looking for gems.

If they find one of my edited posts that has a suspicious amount of worthless updoot karma and that post is totally out of context then I am sure they are bright enough to figure out that they will need to get that content somewhere else.

I left untouched all of my old "Best of Reddit" and the gilded posts since those had above average value to the readers who chose to engage and updoot.

At the end of the day, the content has always been mine to edit or delete. That is the way that the site was designed to function so labeling anything I do as vandalism, trolling, or juvenile behavior only works to make you look like someone trying hard to understand how to value your investment in reddit in the event that others choose to act similarly.

As I mentioned somewhere else, reddit could change all of this if they instituted controls that would allow live users to instantly recognize bots and adverts so that users can instantly choose to read a post or comment or to ignore it. The fact that they embraced and actively ignore the bot armies, the shills for various products or philosophies, the blatant adverts, etc tells me and others that they have lost touch with their users.

As it is, forcing me to check karma levels and username age to hope to recognize reposters and bots is just wrong. Clear and ban the bots, ID the adverts, add a shill warning to those who evangelize or push agendas or misinformation, and the traffic finds a floor.

On that floor reddit will find those loyal, long-term users like myself a lot more likely to engage. Clean the house and make it more livable and others will move in to see what's up. Sunshine is the best disinfectant here. Otherwise people like myself will choose whether to continue to engage with reddit and set their own terms of engagement.

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