Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling • Hacker News Board

Re: Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling

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Post by Toutouxc » Fri, Mar 08, 2024, 11:12 AM UTC

c-hendricks wrote: post #178

vmirnv wrote: post #177

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I've found that many Mac users aren't aware of the three-finger drag and select feature, and it seems Apple has somewhat hidden this setting for some reason: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102341 With tap-to-click, my touchpad is completely silent.

I've used it since before it was shunted to Accessibility settings. Nowadays, sometimes Finder gets confused when you use 3-finger drag, and it doesn't work with sliders in the newer control center released years ago.

FWIW, 3-finger drag works perfectly for me. I've never used anything else. Currently on M1 Air with Sonoma.

Re: Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling

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Post by sandreas » Fri, Mar 08, 2024, 11:26 AM UTC

crotchfire wrote: post #278

sandreas wrote: post #267

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> I'm pretty sure Hutterer was the one who pushed it into the App layer. I'm not sure what he did and I'm not trying to do fingerpointing. I thought he just pushed it away from libinput stating that it's the wrong place to handle it and wanting to keep libinput as "clean" as possible - even if this might be a questionable argument in this case. To answer one of your other comments... > If you mark them with a "this i…

this would not help without changes in at least one of the other layers I mentioned (Compositor, Window Manager, Apps) to either ignore or handle these events Yes, certainly. But it's basically one or two lines of code with zero configuration knobs: if (ev->is_synthetic && focus_changed_since_last_nonsynthetic) return; Compare this to the current state of affairs, where every toolkit/compositor/app has to reimplement…

Very convincing pitch

> Perhaps a viable compromise would be to insert a new layer above libinput.

Since I think this probably will never get integrated in libinput, this might be the best solution for everyone - also opt in. Unfortunately I don't think anyone is ever gonna implement it in a way that everyone can agree on.

However, if someone would implement patches for libinput as well as e.g. mutter that work flawlessly, are documented and gain acceptance, this would put a lot of pressure on all other projects to integrate this.

If you have such patches and they are open source, you surely would have my support. I would definetely use it...

Re: Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling

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Post by brazzledazzle » Fri, Mar 08, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #69

brazzledazzle wrote: post #43

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I wonder if that's the old magic mouse. I don't think I do that with the newer one but I remember something like that with the original.

No, that's both versions of the Magic Mouse. I have the most current version (in my hand right now), and if you want to right-click, you definitely need to lift your finger from the left side.

Oh wow you're right. I didn't even notice I do it. Now it's going to bother me.

Re: Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling

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Post by bmicraft » Sat, Mar 09, 2024, 12:28 AM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #235

bmicraft wrote: post #147

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Try enabling "XINPUT2" in firefox, you'd be surprised what a difference it makes

I gave it a try. The difference is that XINPUT2 scroll has inertia: I start scrolling, remove the fingers from the touchpad and it keeps scrolling for a while. If I want to stop when I see something interesting I have to click or it will scroll away. That adds an extra action that must performed at the right time. I don't think I like that because this is not a videogame and Firefox is not supposed to challenge my ab…

> I start scrolling, remove the fingers from the touchpad and it keeps scrolling for a while

If you want it to not scroll further you need to stop scrolling before lifting you fingers. That should be pretty easy to get used to.