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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #207

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Exactly. Even the reddit blackouts etc did nothing really - sure a few people left in a huff and all that jazz, but Reddit is still trucking along happily. The only time I've seen the "eff it, we're leaving!" thing actually work was with Digg v4.

Nah, the blackouts definitely hurt Reddit. Deleted posts are the norm now. This was not the case before the API changes.

Deleted and overwritten posts were a thing for long before the api change.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #50

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Why not make an account if you want to read it?

I refuse to login to twitter for ethical reasons. If someone links me to a tweet I assume it’s because they thought I’d find it interesting. It’s a thoughtful act which deserves a little bit of effort on my part, so I’m willing to change the domain to see it. I’m not willing to login though. It’s a principle thing.

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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate. When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.

> When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative. The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down. Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?

Sorry but the 'twitter will die any day now' narrative was utterly pervasive across reddit and endless media sources were cited on a daily basis in the 6-month period that followed the buyout. It was basically the _only_ topic on r/whitepeopletwitter which had 3+ posts hit the frontpage daily.

It isn't something you can gaslight away. Everyone who was there saw it. It happened.

Interestingly enough most of the reddit posts were deleted after 3 days once they'd fallen off the frontpage. It didn't matter, there were always more being made lol. Does make it awfully hard to cite, though. Odd.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #178

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We're all sharing the same links, articles, jokes, memes, ideas, cat pictures. What differentiates a place is its sense of community, not its content. It's easy to forget that because Twitter long ago stopped being a community.

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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #31
post #23

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I am quite sure the people who use Nitter or otherwise detest Mysterious Twitter X are a vocal minority of people.

I do not think that people without account are minority.

I'm struggling heavily to find the traffic statistic that I read a year or so ago, but it said that point seven to point nine percent of all Twitter traffic came from Nitter. Considering that at the time there were three different third party front ends that is no small amount, I think somewhere around thirty million visits daily.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #136

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It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel and quality. Let twitter live in its current state if it means other places won't be taken over by influencers and other bullshit.

This is nice in theory. I haven't used any twitter alternatives but others seem to report that their content is more or less the same as twitter's.

Speaking for the fediverse only, the experience is what you make of it. Stay on the largest, averagest instance and your experience will be bland; get on an instance with people who share your values, an instance that connects with other instances OK with you, follow accounts posting content you want to see and the experience will be much better.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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> When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative. The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down. Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?

Sorry but the 'twitter will die any day now' narrative was utterly pervasive across reddit and endless media sources were cited on a daily basis in the 6-month period that followed the buyout. It was basically the _only_ topic on r/whitepeopletwitter which had 3+ posts hit the frontpage daily. It isn't something you can gaslight away. Everyone who was there saw it. It happened. Interestingly enough most of the reddit…

I'm not on Reddit so I'll take your word for it, but that isn't the claim being discussed.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #241

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>The Elon era seems to emphasise truth over sensitivities I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition--Musk infamously gutted that department, and I've seen plenty of claims at least from journalists and the EU that the problem is now worse. Anecdotally, I left Twitter not for ideological reasons, but because my timeline become filled with algorithmic noise from what were clearly…

Community notes are great and an important tool to fact check disinformation from politicians and VIPs to which traditional fact checkers often turn a blind eye. I say this from Brazil so your YMMV. While I'm not familiar with the Mr. Beast debacle on Twitter he and his content are extremely popular so it's natural for his content to be recommended. What wasn't "natural" was Twitter recommendations prior. Though ther…

I can’t stress this enough, for anyone who (like myself) for some reason didn’t think this was possible: Twitter’s community notes are no different from tweets in their ability to spread misinformation.

What makes them worse than tweets (at least the original immutable tweets) at combatting intentional disinformation is that Birdwatch notes 1) are visually formatted to communicate an impression of absolute ground truth, and 2) don’t reflect any controversy or edit history.

A trending tweet with a false “correction” (such as the one that claimed a video of Xinjang police brutality against an Uyghur was showing Taiwanese police) would be viewed by millions of people, 99% of whom would read that note completely uncritically, before it would get corrected. The people who are equipped to recognize the lie, and who care to fight to get it corrected, are few compared to the army of internet trolls spreading that lie.

Eventually the note may get rewritten—but at that point the tweet is no longer trending; the operation was a success and no one even knows that it took place. Since the note gets rewritten with no history maintained, the only evidence of the original malicious, false correction would have to be in that updated note, which is obviously an unpopular choice because it makes the new note harder to read and makes future readers do extra work to untangle what happened there.

(Incidentally, one of the things that could reliably be used to combat bias—labeling tweets from accounts that are known to be associated with governments or such—was nuked by Elon right away.)

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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post #49

Websites like Quora, Instagram, TikTok, and now X, work against the idea of an open Web. Content is increasingly concentrated into separated silos. But I understand why it's happening: People who don't have an account can't receive personalized ads.

FB, Linkedin, Pinterest as well. All of these walled gardens are "built on the shoulder of giants", whose work pioneered the open internet. Further, what isn't silos seems to be content chum whose main purpose is collecting the reader's email address. Oddly the modern web seems to be driving me offline and back to books.

> FB, Linkedin, Pinterest as well. All of these walled gardens are "built on the shoulder of giants", whose work pioneered the open internet.

Very true. Using the openness when it’s convenient and actively shutting the door behind you, it’s one of the most morally reprehensible things that one can do in a shared ecosystem.

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