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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by cowsandmilk »

jeremyjh wrote: post #265
pard68 wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many states (or all the ones I have lived in anyway) have regular, mandatory inspections.

A lot are only checking emissions and lights.

States that do safety inspections are generally more thorough.

Virginia: https://vsp.virginia.gov/safety-and-enforcement/vehicle-safe...

Massachusetts: https://www.mavehiclecheck.com/motorists-basicinfo#Safety

Those are the only two states I've lived in. I don't get why so much of the country doesn't do these; it seems the Northeast of the US almost all require periodic safety inspections and the western US does not.

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Post by avs733 »

dgellow wrote: post #241
bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

How is Tesla still considered a startup? It’s a 20 years old company with a 80billion valuation and more than 100k employees Edit: I even missed a zero, it has a 800billion valuation

Funny enough I can comment on this with some data…

I was involved in a study a few years back that looked (in part) at how engineering undergraduates defined entrepreneurship and startup. It fortunately the results from that part ended up on the cutting room floor to focus out main paper on something else…

Generally, to undergraduate engineers, entrepreneurship and startups are defined by the following things:

Being in Silicon Valley/San Francisco

Doing something related to technology

Being financially successful (yes…noting another finding was that they often subconsciously conflated revenue and profit, but only when told the financial data was from a “startup”)

Being controlled by their founder

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Post by mlrtime »

jeffrallen wrote: post #222
mdp2021 wrote: post #98

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> loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence Confirmed. Friends in the car maintenance business have witnessed for years a quality fall (materials etc). "Infotainment", I hope I will not have the experience (apart maybe from removing some), but my last car was the first one with a sound system that hissed.

I watch Sandy Munro sometimes. His comments on how to cut costs sometimes sound brilliant, and sometimes sound like a race to the bottom. I suspect that's the problem: even the experts don't know what the consequences of a certain cost cutting measure is. At a polar opposite, I'm reminded of the wonder of walking across the Brooklyn bridge and thinking, "they don't make them like this anymore".

Wait until you read how many people died building the BB and how much it costs to maintain it.

Althought we did learn a lot about the affects of pressure on the human body which is cool.

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Post by flutas »

seshagiric wrote: post #127

My experience as a Model Y owner: What works: - best in class software quality. Both various controls (lights, wipers, electronic parking brake etc.) and infotainment work just right. - Navigation is quite good, especially considering it automatically adds/ suggests charging locations as needed. - Steering assist (automatic lane and speed control) is quite handy. I never felt the need for trying out autopilot. What d…

> Steering assist (automatic lane and speed control) is quite handy. I never felt the need for trying out autopilot.

Steering assist + TACC is what Autopilot is.

You're probably confusing it and Enhanced autopilot (changes lanes, takes exits) or FSD (city streets BS).

That being said, Autopilot is IMO the best of their software, EAP is like a midpoint and FSD "Beta" will actively try to kill you at times (personal experience).

I do agree with your battery points though. If I tap into the Tesla API for my car right now they even have three ranges calculated out (time of sale stated, ideal, and real).

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Post by MrMan »

light_hue_1 wrote: post #269
kossTKR wrote: post #261

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To me teslas are still annoying and dangerous because of a bunch of small things last time i rented one, like buying a great computer, but the screen colours are inverted: 1) No buttons but shit quality touch "areas in places you have to guess" on steering wheel, is straight up dangerous, and incredibly annoying because you can't "get a feel" for anything you have to do, ie. turn lights, wipers etc. 2) No other knobs…

This is like reading a review of an iphone from an older dedicated blackberry user. It can take a bit to get used to advances in technology. The Tesla UI is the best car UI I've ever used. By far. I would never want to go back. 1. There's zero guessing. The steering wheel touch zones are very nicely marked by bumps. I have never put my finger in the wrong spot. 2. You can configure the steering wheel buttons to do so…

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Post by mattmaroon »

dgellow wrote: post #241
bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

How is Tesla still considered a startup? It’s a 20 years old company with a 80billion valuation and more than 100k employees Edit: I even missed a zero, it has a 800billion valuation

I guess because most of their competitors are 100 yrs old? Making cars is really, really hard. Tesla’s first mass produced car was only ten years ago, and their top two models 6 and 3 years ago. The average age of their entire fleet is in the low single digits.

In the car world that’s just getting started.

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Post by croutonwagon »

ryandrake wrote: post #205
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #45

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This makes me a feel a lot better about choosing a Toyota over a Tesla back in 2019. The one unforgivable thing about the Toyota is the infotainment system. What a blight on humanity. But otherwise, such a great car. I’ve never really liked cars until this thing. It’s so comfortable, reliable, cheap to maintain, and makes all of our trips like camping and mountain biking such a joy. The Tesla would have been such a h…

Toyota has never understood infotainment software. It’s my one and only complaint of the brand after owning many of their cars. They need to just give up.

I never understood why a car company would WANT to do better than a software company. Just make something with fully integrated CarPlay or Android auto with a failsafe for rentals or those without phones that don’t want to pair.

If you want the fully featured maps, guidance just pair your phone. Done. CarPlay is leagues beyond anything I have seen otherwise in an infotainment system.

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Post by lawn »

Geisterde wrote: post #225
sharps1 wrote: post #185

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https://apnews.com/article/tesla-autopilot-recall-driver-mon... That recall still doesn’t fix the underlying issue with the autopilot.

The underlying issue is with the driver not paying attention to the road.

Which can't be fixed before lvl 5 self-driving.

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Post by hef19898 »

darthrupert wrote: post #192
angulardragon03 wrote: post #162

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Probably this, yeah. Lease cars as part of your work comp are relatively common in the tech sector here.

Which is nice for us middle earners since we get those almost new models a lot cheaper.

Cars coming back from lwasing, if bought with a new warranty, are great value. Especially after Covid, those 2020/2021 model years tend to have incredible low millage.

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Post by mlrtime »

photon_collider wrote: post #267
cyberax wrote: post #29

Tesla cars are interesting. The drivetrain and the battery are very reliable and will likely be never need service. But everything else is shitty. The construction quality, random breakages, neverending rattles are annoying. My Tesla spent more time in service than my partner's Toyota, and this includes regular oil changes.

I’ve thought about buying a Tesla for years now but stories like this have dissuaded me. I would have hoped that issues such as these would have been resolved by now. But, I’m glad that the other auto makers are starting to finally bring some competition in the EV market.

I don't own a Tesla but this brand is so volatile when it comes to internet forums, I wouldn't let it sway you.

Talk to a person IRL that doesn't sit on social media and ask how they like it.

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