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Post by thejazzman »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #253
Der_Einzige wrote: post #243

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The people of Singapore pay a minimum of 100K for the privilege of owning a bottom tier car and the demand for cars there is overwhelming and insatiable, despite the world class and extremely clean mass transit systems. The reality is that cars are freedom and still superior from a continence and comfort standpoint. Americans are insanely privileged to have cheap, powerful cars.

>The reality is that cars are freedom and still superior from a continence and comfort standpoint. Ask any Amazon driver; they much prefer peeing in bottles in the comfort of their own delivery trucks vs on trains.

Amazon delivery drivers use vans in my location

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Post by talldatethrow »

bombcar wrote: post #148
talldatethrow wrote: post #98

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This is supposed to be a forum where people think a little... You extrapolated depreciation due to age on a new car (which isn't anywhere near the same later), full coverage insurance that seems grossly over priced anyway (that people change to lower coverage as a car becomes worth less), taxes and fees that are not as high by the time a car is older, and you added $12000 of finance charges on a $20000 car. It does n…

It’s the same bad math that says it costs $250k to raise a kid so the family down the street with five kids must have access to $1.25 million.

Exactly. I'm from the central valley, where the less money you have the more kids you have and the happier and more fulfilled you and your kids seem.

My GF teaches in a popular silicon valley suburb where the average parent makes $300k+ and the kids are either insane, depressed, autistic, sociopaths, or 4 years behind on their reading and math levels.

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Post by [deleted] »

senectus1 wrote: post #176
yuliyp wrote: post #126

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That sounds like railroads but worse. What's the advantage? Tunneling is incredibly expensive to do, yet you're proposing it in a situation where it'd need enough coverage so as to ban large freight transport over roads.

Its away from weather and extreme temp changes. Its super common in Australia for railways to shut down due to warping of the rails from heat.

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Post by dragonwriter »

addicted wrote: post #68
vorticalbox wrote: post #7

Robert Goddard designed a vacuum train in the 1910s, why did Elon think it was going to work a century later?

Well the most likely theory is that he did not expect it to work, which is precisely why he proposed it. The point wasn’t to work. The point was to kill/delay CAHSR.

> The point was to kill/delay CAHSR.

Can't think of why a car company owner/CEO would want to do that...

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Post by filmgirlcw »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #245
iampims wrote: post #228

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Roads safe for cycling is half the battle. The other half is around zoning and mixing residential with businesses.

Legalize biking on the sidewalk nationwide. I don’t want to bike on the road for any reason. Bikers have far far lower chances of hurting pedestrians than cars do of bikers.

Absolutely not. In Seattle, cyclists already abuse the sidewalks when there are dedicated bike lanes everywhere. And the cyclists on the sidewalks are the worst of the worst who will plow over pedestrians without even pausing. No fucking thanks.

Enforce actual bike lanes and ensure people biking following the laws and rules of the road and we'd be a lot better off. But letting people too dumb to wear helmets* or to understand why they need to be in a bike lane and not on a sidewalk onto the sidewalk with zero consequence? Absolutely not.

* I do not even remotely care about the anti-helmet arguments. I’m sure you’re a cyclist who has done all the research and proof as to why if you’re good and paying attention a helmet is unnecessary or even bad. Fine. Most people on bikes and most people in cars aren’t you. Wear a helmet!

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Post by verbify »

prometheus76 wrote: post #227
dougmwne wrote: post #201

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I’ve slowly lost my innocence when it comes to public transportation in the US. At this point I can see that 95% of the country is absolutely locked into low-density single occupancy transportation at least till we invent sky cars. We have trillions in sunk cost that covers nearly every road, every home and every business in America. We will never, ever be Europe.

Do you understand how much bigger and more climate-diverse and elevation-diverse America is?

A better comparison might be China which has an extensive rail network.

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Post by grecy »

wnevets wrote: post #47

What I never understood about that fiasco is that after it was decided to just throw some Teslas in a tunnel, why weren't they fully self driving? Isn't a one way tunnel without traffic or real world conditions like weather a perfect place to use it?

I was in the Tesla loop last month in Vegas. The drivers said Nevada won't let them run driverless yet, but they're working on the permits to get there.

They also just announced the massive expansion to include the whole strip

https://interestingengineering.com/culture/vegas-loop-the-bo...

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Post by 1920musicman »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #256

The original Hyperloop paper had a lot of gaps. How does the thing move in low speed until it's fast enough to have aerodynamic lift? Does it use wheels? I don't think the paper talked about it. You do need a good business model and a solid technical foundation. Hyperloop needs a lot of technical work still. Arguably this was also true of SpaceX in the early days, but Elon (and the team he assembled) could execute be…

> The Boring Company will get to it eventually, because something like Hyperloop is required for the Mars colony

What does The Boring Company have to do with Hyperloop?

I am not an expert, but seems like building a Maglev track on Mars with its low-pressure atmosphere would be far easier than on Earth. Taking into consideration how far we are from the first manned flight to Mars, this sounds more like wishful thinking than a serious proposition.

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Post by WalterBright »

ljm wrote: post #265
dougmwne wrote: post #201

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I’ve slowly lost my innocence when it comes to public transportation in the US. At this point I can see that 95% of the country is absolutely locked into low-density single occupancy transportation at least till we invent sky cars. We have trillions in sunk cost that covers nearly every road, every home and every business in America. We will never, ever be Europe.

I was in Miami some time ago, around Wynwood. Never really saw anyone walking around, and if we wanted to go anywhere then it basically required ordering an Uber. The difficult part was getting a sense of direction because there aren't really any obvious landmarks to look out for when wandering through wide-scale suburban sprawl. It's like the availability of GPS has just allowed this kind of sprawl to become even mo…

When I was in Tokyo in the 1980s, there were no street signs. The taxi drivers just knew where to go. A tip I received was to always carry a brochure of your hotel. Hop in cab, show the driver the brochure, "Hai" and off we went!

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Post by grecy »

mynameisnoone wrote: post #190
Ekaros wrote: post #51

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I always wondered just how bad an idea must have been. If Musk didn't go after it. Specially considering that he is the one who published it...

Why risk your reputation on something high-risk or likely impossible if you can crowdsource others to waste their time and money to verify its continued infeasibility for you?

> Why risk your reputation on something high-risk or likely impossible

You mean like the world's first reusable rocket, the only private company to sent astronauts to the ISS, the world's biggest rocket, or mass producing EVs?

Yeah, you're right, it's good he stuck to the easy stuff!

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