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Post by tannhaeuser »

tedivm wrote: post #17

This was handled so very, very poorly. Frankly it's looking like Microsoft is going to come out of this better than anyone, especially if they end up getting almost 500 new AI staff out of it (staff that already function well as a team). > In their letter, the OpenAI staff threaten to join Altman at Microsoft. “Microsoft has assured us that there are positions for all OpenAI employees at this new subsidiary should we…

> it's looking like Microsoft is going to come out of this better than anyon

Didn't follow this closely, but isn't that implicitly what an ex-CEO could have possibly been accused off ie. not acting in the company's best interest but someone else's? Not unprecedented either eg. the case of Nokia/Elop.

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

falleng0d wrote: post #81
wxw wrote: post #16

Ilya signed it??? He's on the board... This whole thing is such an implosion of ambition.

he even posted a apology: https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20 what the actual fuck =O

I knew it was Joseph Gordon-Levitt's plot all along!

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Post by j-a-a-p »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #85
kossTKR wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't it look like the complete opposite is going to happen though? Microsoft gobbles up all talent from OpenAI as they just gave everyone a position. So we went from "Faux NGO" to, "For profit", to "100% Closed".

> Doesn't it look like the complete opposite is going to happen though? Going from OpenAI to Microsoft means ceding the upside: nobody besides maybe Altman will make fuck-you money there. I’m also not sure as some in Silicon Valley that this is antitrust proof. So moving to Microsoft not only means less upside, but also fun in depositions for a few years.

Ha! One of my all-time favourites, the fuck-you position. The Gambler, the uncle giving advice:

You get up two and a half million dollars, any asshole in the world knows what to do: you get a house with a 25 year roof, an indestructible Jap-economy shitbox, you put the rest into the system at three to five percent to pay your taxes and that's your base, get me? That's your fortress of fucking solitude. That puts you, for the rest of your life, at a level of fuck you.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2039393/characters/nm0000422

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Post by derwiki »

abraxas wrote: post #104
sesutton wrote: post #75

Ilya posted this on Twitter: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company." https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028

Trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I seriously doubt this will work out for him. He has to be the smartest stupid person that the world has seen.

Does that include the person who stole self-driving IP from Waymo, set up a company with stolen IP, and tried to sell the company to Uber?

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Post by m_ke »

breadwinner wrote: post #51

If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…

Watch Satya also save the research arm by making Karpathy or Ilya the head of Microsoft Research

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Post by nabla9 »

sesutton wrote: post #75

Ilya posted this on Twitter: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company." https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028

So this was completely unnecessary cock-up -- still ongoing. Without Ilya' vote this would not even be a thing. This is really comical, Naked Gun type mess.

Ilya Sutskever is one of the best in the AI research, but everything he and others do related to AI alignment turns into shit without substance.

It makes me wonder if AI alignment is possible even in theory, and if it is, maybe it's a bad idea.

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Post by bertil »

ncann wrote: post #203
bertil wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got the impression that the most valuable models were not published. Would Microsoft have access to those too according to their contract?

Don't they need access to the models to use them for Bing?

I would consider those models "published." The models I had in mind are the first attempts at training GPT5, possibly the model trained without mention of consciousness and the rest of the safety work.

There is also all the questions for RLHF, and the pipelines to think around that.

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