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It is insane, and what's even more insane is that restaurants pulling this shit still have customers.
The problem near me is that basically every restaurant is doing it, avoiding it would essentially mean avoiding eating out.
> Hidden fees are fees in which a seller uses an artificially low headline price to attract a customer and usually either discloses additional required fees in smaller print, or reveals additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process. Like tips?
At least tips are expected. It's the 5% "employee support fee" that annoys me because it's a hidden fee, and it's not clear how it relates to tips.
I wonder how this will affect the rest of the US even if congress can’t pass something. For example, if I’m in California and I buy something elsewhere am I protected? If I live in Oregon and buy something in California am I covered?
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The problem near me is that basically every restaurant is doing it, avoiding it would essentially mean avoiding eating out.
This is what I did in SF, then I moved.
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Never heard of that, sounds funny. :-)
There's a restaurant I've given up on for one of those fees. It's not on their PDF menus at all, nor the HTML ones. Just a nice little surprise when you go there. Fuck you. Pay your employees out of my bill, or go out of business, but don't tell me I owe 4% more for "kitchen support". Much like restaurants that want to charge the customer for credit-card fees. Oh, you want to do that? I'll show you why restaurants we…
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I disagree. Note the California bill specifically exempts taxes from this "upfront pricing" requirement. The reason I think listing taxes separately is OK is because (a) it is not something that the business itself has any choice over, and (b) all businesses have to tax the same for equivalent services. I think listing the taxes separately serves an important purpose to remind the purchaser about where your payments…
Agreed. It’s also a reminder to the voter that these sales tax exist and a reminder they can be lowered or eliminated.
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Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
Almost every other country in the world has solved this problem. It’s always fascinating when Americans have problems other countries don’t have, and just throw their hands in air saying “welp nothing we can do about it”
Always fascinating when non Americans can't understand that different places have different rules.
I wonder how this will affect the rest of the US even if congress can’t pass something. For example, if I’m in California and I buy something elsewhere am I protected? If I live in Oregon and buy something in California am I covered?
In practice CA rules often get applied nationally because the market is too big to ignore and doing two versions is too much trouble.
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It is insane, and what's even more insane is that restaurants pulling this shit still have customers.
The problem near me is that basically every restaurant is doing it, avoiding it would essentially mean avoiding eating out.
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Traveling to the US is for most Europeans a mightmare on this point. We are used to have a price that includes the taxes, services, delivery, wathever, you pay this much for this good ot service, and not an anachronistic 'tip' incantation for which you have to be tuned in to the latest local vibes so as not to unintentionaly run afoul of some obfuscated social rules, or you have to wip out your phone to google tax ra…
It is because you are listening to bullshit online too much. I have lived in the US my whole life and I can't remember that last time I left a tip for anything besides a place that you sit down to eat and someone brings you food. My first job was delivering pizza and that is something with a long social norm of tipping. A tip was a nice bonus but if someone didn't tip it didn't matter because someone else people woul…