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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by generalizations »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

> my only recourse is.... check back daily

Sounds like their marketing is doing just fine. If you were to just leave and forget about it, then sure, they need to work on their retention. But you won’t, so they don’t.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by constantly »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

User impressions and revisit rate are key factors in raising money and showing success. It’s natural that they would select for user flows that keep you coming back daily rather than risk you don’t use it for a day or two waiting for an email.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by adroniser »

jjoonathan wrote: post #267
adroniser wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm saying someone would behave the exact same way if they did have subjective experience versus if they didn't have a subjective experience. The brain obeys physical laws just like everything else and I claim that all you need is those physical laws to explain everything a human does. I could be wrong there could be some magic fairy dust inside the human brain that performs some impossible computations but I doubt i…

You need a model of yourself to game out future scenarios, and that model or model+game is probably consciousness or very closely related. Sure, it's not completely in control but if it's just a rationalization then it begs the question: why bother? Is it accidental? If it's just an accident, then what replaces it in the planning process and why isn't that thing consciousness?

It's fine if you think that the planning process is what causes subjective experiences to arise. That may well be the case. I'm saying if you don't believe that non human objects can have subjective experiences, and then use that to define the limits of the behaviour of that object, that's a fallacy.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by thfuran »

adroniser wrote: post #277
thfuran wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether it is possible to construct a perfect human action predictor that is not itself conscious has no bearing on whether consciousness affects human behavior.

That wasn't my point. I'm saying that if the human brain is a physical object obeying physical laws, and all behaviour is a result of the physical state of this brain, then there is no room for the metaphysical to have any effect on the behaviour of a human.

What's the metaphysical have to do with anything?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by p1esk »

amelius wrote: post #209
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

We're heading for the singularity and you're complaining about marketing?

Yeah I don’t think OpenAI needs any marketing at this point.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by toddmorey »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

They do marketing like a 3-person startup that found a saas starter template, connected Stripe with shoestrings, and hasn't looked back. In order to start using the API, I actually had to cancel and sign back up again (because I think I was on a previous rev of the billing model).

I do love these companies that succeed in spite of their marketing & design and not because of it. It shows you have something very special.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by epolanski »

jdance wrote: post #211
epolanski wrote: post #60

I'm following on trying to understand how close I am to developing my personal coding assistant I can speak with. Doesn't really need to do much besides writing down my tasks/todos and updating them, occasionally maybe provide feedback or write a code snippet. This all seems in the current capabilities of OpenAI's offering. Sadly voice chat is still not available on PC where I do my development.

You still cant really teach it your code base, context window is too small, fine tuning doesnt really fit the use case, and this RAG stuff (retrieve limited context from embeddings) is a bit of a hack imho. Fingers crossed we are there soon though

> You still cant really teach it your code base

Well it's not really what I need either, I mostly need an assistant for keeping track of the stuff I need to do during the day, but ideally just using my microphone rather than opening other software and typing.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by mattkrause »

londons_explore wrote: post #252
ilaksh wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe there is a state somewhere between "total chaos and carnage" and "emails users when new features are enabled for their account". Such as "decided it wasn't an operational priority to email users when features were enabled for them".

Emailing users when a new feature is enabled for their account isn't even the kind of thing that would distract an existing very busy developer. You could literally hire an entirely new guy, give him instructions to build such an email system, and let him put the right triggers on the user account permissions database to send out the right emails at the right time. And then, when it's built, you can start adding more…

Heck, dogfood your own product and hire someone to ask ChatGTP to do it!

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by Renaud »

idopmstuff wrote: post #244
suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

It increasingly feels to me like building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice. I see two viable AI business models: 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at. 2. Integration - If you're going to build on an existing AI model, don't focus on adding more capabilities. Instead, focus on integrating it into compani…

> building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice

Maybe not if you rely on models that can be ran locally.

OpenAI is big now, and will probably stay big, but with hardware acceleration, AI-anything will become ubiquitous and OpenAI won’t be able to control a domain that’s probably going to be as wide as what computing is already today.

The shape of what’s coming is hard to imagine now. I feel like the kid I was when I got my first 8-bit computer in the eighties: I knew it was going to change the world, but I had little idea how far, wide and fast it would be.

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