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Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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What is the best way to let these greedy bastards know that we disagree with their conduct? Not buying records will only lead to them wrongfully claiming that they "lost revenue due to piracy".

The answer is not palatable because it will take forever: contact your representatives in the federal government and lobby for copyright reform. IA might be luck they were not sued for more. I believe the MP3.com lawsuit is relevant reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_Recordings,_Inc._v._MP3.co... .

Representative democracy is basically worhtless except for one or two issues that are important to a significant number of people. Not to mention that US copyright and especially enforcement against the internet archive also affects people who are not US citizens and can thus not even pretent that their vote matters here.

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Ransomware with no key provided from a jurisdiction that won’t extradite if discussing threat modeling around generic org weaknesses. Everyone is vulnerable to a sufficiently resourced attack, one simply needs to understand their adversary’s defense budget (incident response arrangement, cyber insurance limits) and attack surface. Educational purposes only, not legal advice, don’t do this.

Perhaps some kind of rootkit would be just...

Delivered on a CD?

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I like how they've even managed to shove the middleman bullshit into digital distribution, where there's practically no way to even justify it. You can't just upload music to Spotify or Apple Music or whatever as an independent artist. You need to pay rent to a distributor who is allowed to interact with the streaming service. (Some of them offer the convenient feature of administering royalties for cover songs, but…

huh? A friend of mine is an independent musician and he uploads his song on the platforms directly without a middleman, at least on spotify.

One or two years ago, they started requiring you to be a label or something to start uploading. Before that, individuals could join and start publishing their own music, and I assume everyone already in was grandfathered.

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'You can do art for money or not', does not compute in the poverty stricken corners of this planet. A staggeringly blasé remark. US Copyright laws, that tend to circle the globe, are obnoxious, favoring the already wealthy or established entities to make creativity an unfair business. I look forward to the change. I am not advocating a blanket position on 'art', or any human endeavour, for that matter. But it would b…

Copyright is not and should not be a welfare system. If you want to help people out of poverty, please do so without restricting what other people can do in private.

A truly tone deaf suggestion.

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Interesting. Do you believe, your applaudable position, should be enforced on anyone doing anything, or just anyone creating 'art'? Seems odd to weaken a musicians chances of making a living (not majors, individuals - copyright laws are odious). The position implies a 'living' will not be permitted by means of creativity. Is that the intention?

> The position implies a 'living' will not be permitted by means of creativity. You're begging the question, here. Also, you know that there exist people who distribute creative works for free, and make money by donations, sponsorships, patronage, and grants. Therefore you know that the statement as you have made it is false, and that you should be looking for a weaker one. edit: I don't know how somebody goes from "…

I am not or have not or do not advocate 'one way or my way', at any point, anywhere in any post, but simply to remind people just be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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How? Firstly, do not commiserate poverty. I think you might mean something else. I hope. Not sure what you mean by 'high contextualisation'. I put ballet dancers on a par with accountants, scientists, and (above) politicians. Not above scientists et al, you mind, on a par. The question specific to IA being pursued and my role here is to do with questioning the somewhat regimented reaction on this forum. I have alread…

>I have already said 'context' is critical That's what I mean by high-contextualisation! There are discussion cultures where it's okay to talk about just a thing in isolation with the understanding that we're putting context aside (low-context), and there are cultures where it's important to be very explicit about the context (high-contextualisation) Both can be completely okay, but it's something to be aware of when…

Thank you. On a public forum I/we know how conversations quickly become diluted/inflated/twisted and often for the most innocuous reasons. As I follow the IA story, a subject that has been around many many time before, I wonder why they have chosen to highlight this one, as presumably they are challenged on a regular basis.

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athos. religious recruitment from other societies. may end soon but it's lasted over a millennium

I'm not sure if a community that is dependent on the outside for replenishment can really be called an independent society.

i didn't say athos was an independent society; i'm just talking about culturally distinct societies, and which features do and do not seem to be universal across all of them. certainly nobody can doubt that the monks of mount athos have cultural traditions that strongly distinguish them from even other orthodox monks, much less nearby towns, but they still have their own rooms and robes. monks in the idiorrhythmic sketes can own quite a bit more than that, as i understand it, and in no case do monks steal personal property from visitors, as they would do if they rejected the concept of private property entirely

very few communities have not been "dependent on the outside from replenishment" within recorded history; even before recorded history, bronze-age mesopotamian kingdoms were evidently dependent on tin imported from cornwall, without which their rule would have collapsed

even deep into the stone age we have strong evidence of long-distance trading of prime knapping flint, but it's harder to know if communities were dependent on it; maybe if their trade routes were cut, they would have made do with lower-quality local flint

(just to disambiguate, this is not evidence that these ancient societies had private property; they might have been trading only their collective property. but they do seem to have made their tools of daily use from materials imported from other societies)

there are autarkic societies (the man of the hole, north sentinel island, the toromona, perhaps the himarimã, arguably north korea) but they are very much the exception, and have been for millennia, if not longer

i don't see that importing the young people that you need to perpetuate your society is particularly different from importing food or weapons. nobody doubts that argentina continued being a distinct society during the late 19th and early 20th century, despite mass immigration from europe increasing its population severalfold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Argentina#Featu...

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Imagine a mixture of 1984: Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past. On the specifics of the lawsuit.. well if the law us bad, then change the law. But not following the law is not nice.

> On the specifics of the lawsuit.. well if the law us bad, then change the law. The March on Selma and Greensboro Lunch Counter Sit-ins agree with you. > But not following the law is not nice. The March on Selma and Greensboro Lunch Counter Sit-ins disagree with you.

Those who have the power will never give it up. If they DO give it up, be afraid, be very afraid as they have moved on to a bigger power, and let you have the old rusty one.

I do insist about the power of the Law. And I do insist that we should either respect or change a law. An unfair law should not exist.

But we should never make law voluntary. But that's my opinion, it's not the Law :)

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Copyright is not and should not be a welfare system. If you want to help people out of poverty, please do so without restricting what other people can do in private.

A truly tone deaf suggestion.

Nope, just one you don't like.

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"...70 years.." That rule does not apply globally. Depends on where you live.

It’s most places, due to the international pressure from multinational organisations like the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organisation) and WTO (World Trade Organisation) … they have longstanding campaigns to harmonies members national legislations to facilitate easier international trade and respect of intellectual property rights between countries… As a result most countries (but, yes, not all countries) have…

It is life+70 only for copyrights owned by natural persons. That's why, for example, the estates of dead artists are managed by their heirs (at least in name). For copyrights owned by businesses, it's 70 years from publication.
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