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Firefox on Android has no tabs.
Umm, what? No, this is absolutely not accurate. They're laid out differently than desktop, but at least on android Firefox does have tabs. Not sure on iOS, but that's basically reskinned safari anyway.
We need to be able to directly fund Firefox instead of all the other mozilla stuff. https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/ability-to-donate-money...
We need to donate to a new team/foundation/corporation, anyone at all, that would fork Firefox and continue it's development. I would never, ever, give a single cent to the Mozilla Foundation. It's current form is not focused on what the users of it's products want or need. The ideology Mozilla loves to shove in it's users faces is just the cherry on top. I've been using Firefox ever since the early 2000s, and even d…
Which of those are you currently donating to?
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I see people hating on Mozilla, not Firefox. They absolutely deserve it too. They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead. One would think they'd try to fix the web by making Firefox the dominant browser.
Can someone elaborate why Mozilla gets hate? I don't pay much attention to that and just use Firefox.
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> They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead Where have they announced that they're focusing on "agenda pushing"? Mozilla's "agenda" feels like a very tiny part of what they do, it's just that people talk about it endlessly.
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/ Just read their blog. Latest three: - EU's AI Act - Fakespot school supplies? - Making trustworthy chatbots to support women plagued by violence and abuse The first one might make sense? Second one WTF? And third is disgusting (I know people effected and the LAST thing they want is some chatbot). None of these are related strongly to Firefox. I quit donating to them years ago after it was…
I don't understand why everyone keeps talking about this as if it's an either/or.
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>It's popular to hate on Firefox, I don't hate Firefox, I hate Mozilla.
I'll always love Mozilla, or at least some fictional idealized version of it, so I'm stuck being increasingly disappointed in Mozilla while holding out for the times they do something right. Giving add-on support back to firefox users is a good thing so here's hoping it won't be done in a way that disappoints me. I hope they bring back about:config next.
I've never had to use about:config on mobile before, but I just checked and it works fine for me.
There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…
I think Firefox's addon policy is one of the reasons they lost market share. Moving from oldscool extensions to webextensions they lost their unique selling point. Firefox was the only browser that you could really theme. It's adblock existed earlier and was better than others (and is soon again due to Manifest v3?). Especially for non-tech-savvy people, who don't know what a browser is, if they need a certain featur…
Their market share was dropping for a long time before, and it was dropping for a long time after. And to the extent that switching addon models helped them improve performance during their big marketing push in 2017, it probably got them a few users back if anything.
A full half of Firefox users (even at the time) didn't use addons, and the majority of the rest only used one or two adblockers.
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I see people hating on Mozilla, not Firefox. They absolutely deserve it too. They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead. One would think they'd try to fix the web by making Firefox the dominant browser.
> They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead Where have they announced that they're focusing on "agenda pushing"? Mozilla's "agenda" feels like a very tiny part of what they do, it's just that people talk about it endlessly.
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https://blog.mozilla.org/en/ Just read their blog. Latest three: - EU's AI Act - Fakespot school supplies? - Making trustworthy chatbots to support women plagued by violence and abuse The first one might make sense? Second one WTF? And third is disgusting (I know people effected and the LAST thing they want is some chatbot). None of these are related strongly to Firefox. I quit donating to them years ago after it was…
There really aren't any software engineering resources taken up with writing those blog entries. Would it help if they posted a weekly blog entry entitled "Yes, we're still working on Firefox"? I don't understand why everyone keeps talking about this as if it's an either/or.
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You see, Mozilla is stuck in this limbo where people criticise them for taking money from Google, but also criticise them when they explore alternate funding sources (Pocket, Mozilla VPN, Firefox Private Network, MDN Plus) because they're not focusing on Firefox and Thunderbird. Sometimes literally in the same comment, as the one above. In other words, HN crowd will shit on them regardless of what they do.
> where people criticise them for taking money from Google, but also criticise them when they explore alternate funding sources What aggravates me is nobody is asking why do you need so much cash? - Why has it become so big that it needs to spend 81M on Management payroll per year? [0] - Why has it grown so big that it needs to spend 21M in external consultants per year? [0] - Why do you need 1000+ staff to roll out…
Writing fast moving mature Software for multiple platforms, is not something you can do with three nerds in your spare-time. Web browsers are highly complex, and Firefox has still many historical grown baggage to improve and maintain. And let's be fair, their software has a very high quality-level, even we can dispute on the details. Whether 1000+ people are necessary for this, I don't know, but considering everything they do even in their core-area, it's not something which can be done with small budget.
> If I go to most open source projects and say you can burn through 8M a year, most of them would agree they could build amazing things.
Amazing by their perspective, but not by the standards of end-users. And 8 Millionen, that's around 666k per month, meaning you have either around 3-5 well paid workers who are worth that price, or 10-20 poorly paid workers, who are probably average competent at best. And this is nowhere near the number of people necessary for such a big project.
Firefox for Android is lacking on so many basic features, it's amazing that they prioritize anything else before fixing those. E.g deep links. Which is very, very basic feature for mobile. Firefox on Android is unusable without it - and it seems like no one prioritize this, so excuse me for not being excited by any other feature. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54653641/app-links-not-w... https://github.com/mozil…
The browser is a sandbox that I use specifically to protect me from this kind of predatory shit.