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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by bcherry »

LinuxBender wrote: post #137

I identified a UFO yesterday. It was a UFO until I realized a finch flew past my camera too fast for it to focus. I suspect most UFO's are something like this. I would hope that all UFO investigations start with "Why were our sensors failing to do their job?" and/or "Why was someone able to trick/spoof our sensors?" I can see why this would be classified. One should not leak to adversaries how miserably some of our s…

At least in the military, they have confirmed publicly that they routinely interact with UAP during training etc that are captured multiple ways: radar, FLIR, visual, cameras, etc. So it's not a sensor artifact. This resource is a good "just the facts" intro to the topic, as perceived by the US military and federal government: https://www.uap.guide/

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Post by dang »

waterheater wrote: post #168
dang wrote: post #158

Related threads on this hearing: Whistleblower tells Congress: US Gov't hides 'non-human intelligence' evidence - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36882051 - July 2023 (1 comment) Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36880471 - July 2023 (13 comments) Public US hearing on UFOs [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36880454…

Maybe merge the three video links and keep the news stories separate?

Which is the best video link and which is the best article link?

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Post by cwkoss »

realo wrote: post #216

One thing I find amazing is the diversity of UAP vehicles. It used to be saucers, then silvery orbs, tic tac pills, triangles with bright lights , and now during the hearing we learn about dark cubes in translucent spheres! I mean... how many different alien races exactly are playing tourists over here?

Perhaps earth is the best comedy in the quadrant

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Post by einrealist »

o-90 wrote: post #234

One explanation for this is that another country just has better military technology than the United States. And the cover-up/conspiracy is that the US government knows this, but just made up something about aliens because they knew that Americans were stupid enough to believe it. It exploits a very glaring blind spot in a lot of Americans' minds (that there is no way we couldn't be #1).

I am more convinced that modern radar and sensor technology is susceptible to accidental or even malicious interference. And if there is a cover-up, its more likely to prevent harm to the businesses of the contractors and technology providers and to prevent adversaries to learn possible exploits. I highly doubt that there was "visual contact" with those anomalies.

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Post by mcpackieh »

mattmaroon wrote: post #33
mcpackieh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presuming there was actually some aliens/UFOs to know about in the first place (I'm pretty confident there aren't any actual alien UFOs, but that doesn't mean there aren't secret programs dedicated to UFOs), it is likely that most of congress wouldn't know about it and only a few congressmen on the right committees would know. Not every member of congress is informed of all the secrets the American government has. Pa…

I have always felt that given how far away they must be, and the challenge involved in crossing that space, the most ridiculous belief is that some extra-terrestrial intelligent life is simultaneously able to build ships that get here (meaning they're far more technologically advanced than us) and yet not able to hide them from us. Or that they get here and have a breakdown right over New Mexico. Or their drone could…

> While the odds are almost 100% that there's intelligent life somewhere

I disagree, it's pretty easy to make "Drake equations" go to zero, particularly if you limit the scope to just the Milky Way galaxy (only 10^11 stars.) The Rare Earth Hypothesis is consistent with all of our empirical observations of the universe thus-far.

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Post by chiefalchemist »

nonethewiser wrote: post #175
chiefalchemist wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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China admitted it was their balloon but claimed it wasn’t the government’s, nor for surveillance. Does that mean China is just in on the conspiracy then?

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Post by LightMorpheus »

RetpolineDrama wrote: post #262

All I can say is that the archives of these threads/comments are going to be _highly_ entertaining to our future-selves (hello future people reading this!). The amount of ignorance on display is overwhelming, and a lot of people who fancy themselves intelligent are going to struggle to come to terms with how they were so wrong for so long.

Ahoy to the future. If it’s been 7 years and no evidence has surfaced, then discard any and all news about UFO • UAP • NHI • Aliens as complete b.s.

Signed, The past

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Post by chiefalchemist »

shepardrtc wrote: post #161
chiefalchemist wrote: post #145

> “I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program, to which I was denied access,” Grusch told the committee. So he's got hearsay but no hands-on or eyes-on direct proof. Like Mulder, I want to believe. But if you're going to speak under oath, you've got to do better than this.

He had names of people willing to testify, names of people to investigate, and exact locations of where to look. All of which he offered in a scif in accordance with the requirements of his clearance level. As soon as they get approved for the scif, then they'll see very quickly if he was full of shit or not.

If there are others with more direct knowledge and they are willing to testify, then why did Congress call on this guy? The smell here is off.

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Post by mustacheemperor »

srvmshr wrote: post #260
mustacheemperor wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wrapped up Skunkworks and put the book down pretty impressed at what the DoD and Lockheed were able to keep secret. The author described Skunkworks' mission "again and again" as creating aircraft that were technologically unbelievable to America's enemies, so they would have no means to even reckon with a defense. The USSR spent hundreds of billions of rubles on an impenetrable anti-air defense network, Lockhe…

> but I don't think it's so plainly unbelievable that the government can't keep secret projects under wraps. Rare triple negation. Also, I couldn't follow the last bit. Were you saying that basically what we imply as dazzling mind boggling technology is a top secret projects waiting to be unveiled / discovered?

That’s lunch hour commenting for you I guess, don’t tell my old AP comp teacher or even this many years on she’d literally kill me.

And yeah, I mean after reading the book I feel:

- it is plausible witnesses have seen aircraft behaving in ways they believed were technologically or physically impossible

- it is much much more likely those craft were classified projects than extraterrestrials

- the USA has previously created, and kept secret, aircraft levering technological innovations that had recently seemed impossible

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Post by operatingthetan »

beaned wrote: post #249
neuronic wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they never make mistakes above NYC or Berlin, or anywhere with a bunch of social media + phone users around. Just somewhere in the desert conveniently close to AFBs and other restricted areas.

A good point. A couple thoughts here might be: 1. They make exceptionally few mistakes overall anyway; 2. Perhaps it is the interaction between armed force technology and their vehicles which creates problems for them (whether intentional or not from our side); 3. The majority of our land surface area is not inhabited at any given moment. Maybe these drones, or whatever they are, do not even care about life here, and…

Maybe our devices are easily hacked by their technology. E.g. the phones just don't see them or images of craft are removed from photos.
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