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Goodbye, Twilio

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Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by Animats »

tomjen3 wrote: post #66
Animats wrote: post #12

Yeah, it's sad. They started as simply an SMS gateway. I still have a Twilio account, for my steampunk Teletype setup. It's a pure reply system - you text to a phone number, that's printed on a Teletype machine, and the sender gets an acknowledgement back. It's inbound SMS. Years ago, at Twilio's request, I demoed this at a Twilio convention. Twilio now wants me to "register my marketing campaign" and pay an addition…

Your work sounds absolutely awesome. Did you blog about it somewhere?

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Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by austhrow743 »

swyx wrote: post #235
redroyal wrote: post #230

I’ll never take Twilio seriously after their fire the white people first layoffs. I think they’re racist and won’t do business with them ever again.

uh what? source?

https://www.twilio.com/blog/a-message-from-twilio-ceo-jeff-l...

>As you all know, we are committed to becoming an Anti-Racist/Anti-Oppression company. Layoffs like this can have a more pronounced impact on marginalized communities, so we were particularly focused on ensuring our layoffs – while a business necessity today – were carried out through an Anti-Racist/Anti-Oppression lens.

Hacker News discussion:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32837345

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by makeitdouble »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #276
makeitdouble wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stock holder =/= worker

Maybe sometimes that's true but at Twilio all employee's are stock holders.

Thanks !

I didn't know, and apparently yes, Twillio employees get RSU at entry as a standard perk. Now, those are still just RSU.

I couldn't get an exact number but if they are in line with most other companies, the stock raising while hypothetically the employee compensation goes down the drain would still a net negative for employees.

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by JoeyPardella »

It's impressive, in such a short article you managed to execute the most low brow self promotion (that you're looking for a new job) and also trash your previous employer who you were quite comfortable profiting off of for years. Twilio's long term vision did not change overnight - in fact it's been very consistent since 2019.

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by wafta »

kyrra wrote: post #70
seanp2k2 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. The fact that the FCC refuses to act (and GOP in Congress blockades things like chair nominations (read up on what happened to Gigi Sohn) to ensure inaction) against telcos just allowing spammers to ruin our national communications infrastructure because the pennies they get from them are worth more than all their consumers is an embarrassment to our country.

For Gigi Sohn: https://www.wsj.com/articles/watch-out-gigi-sohn-is-back-sen... > She’s shown unapologetic animus to conservative views, calling Fox News “dangerous to our democracy,” accusing Republicans of suppressing the vote, and describing Justice Brett Kavanaugh as an “angry white man.” She’s also supported progressive attacks on law enforcement, which prompted the Fraternal Order of Police to oppose her nominat…

>> We were told that Ms. Sohn’s political statements made Democratic Senators Catherine Cortez Masto, Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema and Mark Kelly uneasy.

> It's not just the GOP blocking her.

Is this supposed to be a real opinion? Manchin and Sinema are your cornerstones? LOL

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

johndhi wrote: post #228
l33t233372 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homeless people also exist in non-capitalist economies so I’m not certain that is evidence of anything. Scarcity is the problem, not capitalism.

Scarcity of what? Certainly not money - there seems to be enough of that, it's just not in the poor people's hands

> Scarcity of what?

Attention and logistics. The cost of getting things where they need to go, the administration of an empire, frequently dwarves by orders of magnitude the cost of the materials being transported to and fro. The problem is not solved by localisation given the increased exposure to volatility that brings.

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by cyberax »

29athrowaway wrote: post #247
cyberax wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an MSDS for glyphosate: https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/agrian-cg-fs1-production/... * No more than slightly toxic and no significant adverse health effects are expected to develop if a small amount (less than a mouthful) is swallowed. * May be slightly irritating to the skin. Here's an MSDS for dishwashing liquid: https://hesco.ca/pdf/msds/J429%20MSDS_E-5%20%20DISH%20MACHIN... When working with it, you're…

This is the one sold to residential consumers, and the one used by most lawn care companies. https://labelsds.com/images/user_uploads/Roundup%20Pro%20Con... "Remove soiled clothing immediately and clean thoroughly before using again. Wash thoroughly and put on clean clothing. Keep working clothes separately. Garments that cannot be cleaned must be destroyed (burnt)." "Chemical-resistant gloves (barrier laminate, buty…

MSDS in general are crap. They require wearing full PPE to work with table salt (not kidding, see: https://www.intrepidpotash.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Mo... ). Manufacturers use them to cover their asses.

Glyphosate is a true victim of post-truth society. It has not been shown to cause any harm in multiple well-controlled experiments, yet a jury in San Francisco (no brains allowed there) found Monsanto liable for a cancer that they attributed to glyphosate use. Because Monsanto is bad and does GM food which is bad for you because glyphosate causes cancer.

And now "everybody knows" that glyphosate is somehow bad.

The toxicology section of the MSDS with actual information is great, though:

  SECTION 11: TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
  Eye Causes moderate eye irritation.
  Skin May cause slight irritation.
  Ingestion Not expected to produce significant adverse effects when
  recommended use instructions are followed.
  Inhalation Not expected to produce significant adverse effects when
  recommended use instructions are followed.
  Information on toxicological effects
  Acute oral toxicity LD50 (Rat) > 5,000 mg/kg
  Acute dermal toxicity LD50 (Rat) > 5,000 mg/kg  No deaths
  Skin corrosion/irritation Slight irritant effect - does not require labelling.
Basically, they have not managed to cause dermal toxicity even after slathering rats in glyphosate. Yet you must burn clothes if glyphosate gets on them.

Here's an overview from NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5515989/

Re: Goodbye, Twilio

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Post by rdiddly »

That was refreshing as heck. No damn them to hell, no woe is me, just a lot of here's what happened, and that's why I'm leaving, bye and thanks. Simple, clear, balanced, no histrionics. The word "sadly," I believe was used, that's about it. And yeah, if part of your reason for leaving has to do with the vision becoming cloudy and diffuse, then your writing had better be as concise, neutral and simple as this was, bravo.
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