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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by koboll »

chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

A single glance at your first link and it becomes blindingly obvious that this will never, ever gain mass adoption in its current form.

This type of design, jargon, style, is just anathema to a non-technical audience.

They don't wanted federated whatever, they just want reddit without the problems.

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Post by [deleted] »

BashiBazouk wrote: post #194
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

The problem with the Fediverse as it currently stands is it goes against my long time use of forums. I'm usually only logged in on a desktop where I would post comments from. Most of my reading happens on pad, mobile or work where I have little desire to log in and in the case of a work computer I refuse to log in to anything personal. Kind of defeats the purpose of the whole thing...

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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by x86x87 »

crazygringo wrote: post #82

Now that the initial 48 hours have passed, I would expect Reddit to override this at any moment now. Any subreddits which had not been private previously will revert back to public and the ability to change from public to private will be temporarily disabled. It's one thing for management to wait out 48h (doable), it's another thing to wait out something "indefinite".

Lol. Sure, make it worse and piss people off even more. What could possibly go wrong? The best bet reddit has now is to just stay quiet.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bbor »

berkle4455 wrote: post #173
bbor wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this sarcastic or am I missing some point? More users == more money, and India is the biggest under-tapped single market in social media, if you consider it a "single market". I don't get why being popular in India would be a bad thing...

Investors do not care about just DAUs (daily active users) anymore, they care just as much about ARPU (avg revenue per user) At Facebook, users from Asia Pacific region monetize at around ~1/15th of US&CA users. The costs to serve those users remains relatively fixed on a per-user basis, so expect those costs to inflate by 10-15x to earn the same revenue. Will Reddit drastically change their business model to appeal…

Thanks, well explained! I get that. Your last sentence definitely makes me sad, I guess we have a ways to go to meaningfully achieve the goals of the internet - perhaps LLM-enhanced translation auto-integrated into all the major browsers will help with that…

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Post by ghusto »

idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

Yup. I unsubscribe from the blacked out subs (they free to go dark, but I'm equally free to leave when they do), and sign up to the new or less popular ones that are still working.

I have no skin in the game, and couldn't care less either way what happens to Reddit company, the subs, their third party apps, or the moderators.

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Post by Ataraxic »

cactus2093 wrote: post #178
idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

I agree with all of that, but honestly the more important factor is this is just not a very good cause to get all worked up about. Reddit is trying to grow into a profitable company, their business model is showing ads to users, they obviously can't just let millions of people use 3rd party apps for free. I think even casual users understand this perfectly well. They don't use 3rd party apps for browsing Facebook, In…

Reddit is different because it has been different. Not everything needs to conform prior social media models.

I think the cause is totally fine. I think framing it as some social justice cause is incorrect though. People really liked a thing and now reddit is taking it away in the name of money. The most downvoted post of all time on reddit is an EA post responding to monetization concerns in a star wars game. Seems right in line to me.

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Post by 93po »

pessimizer wrote: post #161
bdowling wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why be a moderator for a for-profit company if you aren't being paid? They like the power of being a moderator and smacking down people who break the rules. Usually they also like to bend the rules themselves to push a personal agenda, promoting what they like and squashing what they don’t like. It’s the same motivation people have to serve on HOA boards or elected government positions.

And plenty of them are being paid, just not by reddit.

100% this. A moderator of any large subreddit has almost guaranteed been offered money to “sell it”. And if there’s any product associated to the subreddit, they get a ton of offers to promote said products. I know there are mods out there that easily make full time incomes from side hustles only possible bc they’re mods

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Post by babypuncher »

p_j_w wrote: post #255
pgwhalen wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why be a moderator for a for-profit company if you aren't being paid? The same reason you'd be a moderator for a non-profit, which is power.

Maybe they give a shit about the community?

Yeah I'm pretty sure all these cynical comments are people who think Reddit is just huge spaces like /r/technology or /r/gaming_circlejerk.

There are literally thousands of small subreddits run by people who actually care about their communities. I feel most of the hate here for all moderators is coming from people who believe there should be no moderation at all.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

babypuncher wrote: post #274
pgwhalen wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why be a moderator for a for-profit company if you aren't being paid? The same reason you'd be a moderator for a non-profit, which is power.

So everyone who's ever run a forum is just a power hungre egomaniac?

forum admins own their work, reddit mods are doing free work for venture capitalists... these are not the same
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