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Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by paisawalla »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #245
paisawalla wrote: post #243

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The underlying motivation in these sorts of exchanges is rarely a desire for a global increase of genuine self-examination, but more often to exploit an opportunity for ostentatious preening. We know this because your logic can be trivially inverted to point the mirror in the reverse direction. So, reflection being what it is, if self-examination were the true goal, one imagines that those advocating it would at leas…

The underlying motivation is to have assholes take a closer look at themselves instead of continuously blaming those around them for what ultimately is the result of their own actions. If this struck such a nerve with you, then you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate why you're so deeply triggered by people advocating for introspection instead of deflection. It's pretty clear from your comment you won't, but…

Have you considered examining why you feel the need to project false moral superiority onto, obliquely insult, and psychoanalyze strangers? Do you think this suggests a sober self-awareness and firm grounding of your principles -- qualities I'm sure you feel you possess and believe you're projecting?

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by nailer »

slg wrote: post #192
jstarfish wrote: post #174

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> And if someone calls you a "transphobe" on some niche gardening subreddit, odds are you are doing something obnoxious and off topic that would upset the mods regardless of whether you are actually a transphobe. Gaslighting in action. To earn the Transphobe badge, all you have to do is complain about anyone else bringing up the subject of trans-anything on a niche gardening subreddit. Or refuse to boycott Harry Pott…

>To earn the Transphobe badge, all you have to do is complain about anyone else bringing up the subject of trans-anything on a niche gardening subreddit. Or refuse to boycott Harry Potter. Yes, this is the "obnoxious and off topic" behavior I was talking about. The mods of a niche gardening subreddit likely don't want to moderate a debate about your refusal to boycott Harry Potter.

In my experience, people who randomly bring up complaints about J. K. Rowling in discussions about other topics tend to be trans-activists rather than gender critical people.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by nailer »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #232
mistermann wrote: post #193

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> "Just asking questions" is the biggest red flag of ill intent I consider the playing of the accusation of the JAQ wildcard (an immediate victory in the minds of some subsets of observers) to be a much more dangerous (often literally unrealizeable) cultural norm, it is a go to staple technique in any delusional internet rhetorician's toolkit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning It is a well known tactic for ill intent. For a reason. People do it all the time and should be called out for doing so.

Asking the rationale for drastic action is quite reasonable and he’s very different from asking why somebody doesn’t like you and chasing them around per the webcomic you’re referencing.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by nailer »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #233
paisawalla wrote: post #111

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> I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order Perhaps you simply haven't encountered the kind of person who, at the vaguest sense of an opportunity to claim the title of Most Moral Person, will leap up to condescend you based on the most uncharitable and motivated reading of your words.

If one person calls you an asshole, then they might be an asshole. If everyone calls you an asshole, then some inward reflection is in order because you're likely coming off as an asshole. If it happens again and again, in different circles with different people, like GP indicates happens, then maybe, just maybe it's not everyone else that's the problem.

I feel the implication is it only happens on Reddit so therefore it’s Reddit that is out of touch.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by nailer »

myko wrote: post #167
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

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This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

> all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Weird, I've been put off of reddit because of the prevalence of transphobes, homophobes, and racists who inundate so many threads. I wish there were better mods to remove those folks from the site.

Do you feel that people outside Reddit are often racist and transphobic?

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

nailer wrote: post #282
slg wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>To earn the Transphobe badge, all you have to do is complain about anyone else bringing up the subject of trans-anything on a niche gardening subreddit. Or refuse to boycott Harry Potter. Yes, this is the "obnoxious and off topic" behavior I was talking about. The mods of a niche gardening subreddit likely don't want to moderate a debate about your refusal to boycott Harry Potter.

In my experience, people who randomly bring up complaints about J. K. Rowling in discussions about other topics tend to be trans-activists rather than gender critical people.

Not, however, when they're explicitly condemning trans activists.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by mynameisvlad »

paisawalla wrote: post #281
mynameisvlad wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The underlying motivation is to have assholes take a closer look at themselves instead of continuously blaming those around them for what ultimately is the result of their own actions. If this struck such a nerve with you, then you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate why you're so deeply triggered by people advocating for introspection instead of deflection. It's pretty clear from your comment you won't, but…

Have you considered examining why you feel the need to project false moral superiority onto, obliquely insult, and psychoanalyze strangers? Do you think this suggests a sober self-awareness and firm grounding of your principles -- qualities I'm sure you feel you possess and believe you're projecting?

Have you considered examining why you feel you need to use the most opaque and overly-elaborate way to say an incredibly simple concept as a way to “project false moral superiority onto [and] obliquely insult […] strangers?”

Projecting your obvious superiority complex onto others while at the same time accusing others of doing so is, quite frankly, hilarious.

Next time, just introspect instead of digging this idiotic hole further. It’s not really that hard to ask yourself “am I the asshole” and it’s quite obvious you’ve never done it in your life.

Either way, I’m done with whatever you want to call this obnoxious rambling of yours.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by [deleted] »

paisawalla wrote: post #281
mynameisvlad wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The underlying motivation is to have assholes take a closer look at themselves instead of continuously blaming those around them for what ultimately is the result of their own actions. If this struck such a nerve with you, then you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate why you're so deeply triggered by people advocating for introspection instead of deflection. It's pretty clear from your comment you won't, but…

Have you considered examining why you feel the need to project false moral superiority onto, obliquely insult, and psychoanalyze strangers? Do you think this suggests a sober self-awareness and firm grounding of your principles -- qualities I'm sure you feel you possess and believe you're projecting?

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by mynameisvlad »

nailer wrote: post #284
mynameisvlad wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one person calls you an asshole, then they might be an asshole. If everyone calls you an asshole, then some inward reflection is in order because you're likely coming off as an asshole. If it happens again and again, in different circles with different people, like GP indicates happens, then maybe, just maybe it's not everyone else that's the problem.

I feel the implication is it only happens on Reddit so therefore it’s Reddit that is out of touch.

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/am-i-so-out-of-touch

Reddit is not one person, you understand that right?

If multiple people on different parts of Reddit are telling you you’re an asshole— something I explicitly called out— then Occam’s Razor says that you are, in fact, the asshole.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by Andrex »

ojbyrne wrote: post #137
Andrex wrote: post #134

Coincidentally, I've been going through Digg's history including v4 and their early history, because it's nostalgic for me. What people don't realize is Digg actually had four founders, depending on how you count them. Owen Byrne[0] has as his bio "The person who built digg for $1000 @ $10/hour, lol". Going by that, I don't think he shared in any equity. The whole site was bootstrapped for apparently $6000 total. Peo…

I had a significant amount of equity. Take most of the numbers with a grain of salt.

Thank you for clarifying! Thank you, also.
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