A lot of negativity in the comments, but the stock is up ~5% today (in particular it didn’t tank), so it seems like the market isn’t as negative about the presentations.
The fast integration into all products is pretty amazing, some of them actually useful (e.g. using search/bard to query/generate tables and exporting them into sheets directly is really cool).
I also like that they emphasized the utility aspect and didn’t get into AGI nonsense that OpenAI peddles so much.
Final Cut Pro is a thing people already use in their workflow, becoming more convenient for them. People have depended on this as part of their production-ready workflow for over 20+ years now, and FCP-folks seem to have a lot of trust in the application and related tooling, that Apple isn't going to leave or abandon Final Cut anytime soon. Google's AI features are not something most of us use in our workflow, and ar…
Final Cut is definitely not the industry standard - most pros abandoned it after they completely rebuilt it from the ground up years ago and it sucked hard
Do not know about Final Cut (it's well optimized for Silicon by the way), but Logic Pro is definitely one of the music industry standards.
WACHTING THE KNEYOTE AND playng a drinkiig game - 1 shott every tim a spaeker says 'generative AI" but now Icant' drink any more and the kenyote is stil runnig :(
I think their response has been pretty clear so far. They don't have a plan. https://bard.google.com/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-g... https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/13/google_lamda_sentient... https://www.wired.com/story/google-timnit-gebru-ai-what-real...
As you wrote this, they announced PaLM 2.
Yeah, and I realize my point of view is unpopular here. Integrating across all their services is just doubling down on what they already took from GPT. I didn’t see anything that wowed me. Cool, so I can LLM in Gmail and workspaces. Cool, so I can build a job description based on what others are hiring for instead of my company’s needs. I’m not saying that any of this is easy, just that it’s simply novelty. PaLM 2, we’ll have to see how it performs but it looks promising but it’s just another GPT-4 competitor. Where’s the “while the world was ogling over GPT-4, we built this”? PaLM 2 isn’t distinctive enough for me to say they are paving the way. They totally get it, but they aren’t paving the road forward. Maybe next year.
I for one benefited so much from Google Developer Groups while at University. Google made sure we learned how to build Android Apps, and consume API's and services like Maps, Firebase, etc. Overall, I gained a good understanding of how systems work, Thanks Google! --From Uganda
Google did not do this out of the goodness of their heart. They did it to lock you in with Firebase, Maps, etc. And believe me, the moment they start charging you for it, you quickly realize why Google is not a company to give an ounce of trust to.
Haha, very similar to how Microsoft turns a blind eye to Windows piracy.
After all, why care? It's not like those people were gonna buy it anyway, and they're still using windows, aren't they?
I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…
HN crowd and devs should know better than most that you can’t depend on anything from Google. Kind of surprised this conference is still being held given where they are at right now.
In 2018 an obnoxious researcher working at a company known at the time as DeepMind told me (who was working in healthtech) that "AI in healthcare is a solved problem". It's 2023 now. AI in healthcare is a rounding error and will likely stay that way for a decade or longer. Google blew a 7 year lead of being an AI-first company to a non-profit. DeepMind is now a team within Google, similar to Ads, Drive, and Shopping…
IMO Google flunked it on the public side, I think the reason most of it was very hush-hush for years is because it was used for private, government purposes. Now, maybe they can't release most of their prior work without permission, so they're regrettably starting over with a blank slate in various departments.