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Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by gsich »

vxNsr wrote: post #188
KingOfCoders wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me - as a long term FF user and Mozilla critic - it looks like: Spend money on everything except browser development (>$5 billions!). Market share down the drain. Use the market share as an argument for a lost cause and spend money on everything except Browser development. Ladybird - a browser spearheaded by one person - will expose Mozilla of what it is.

>Ladybird What’s the deal with serenityOS? Can it be run on bare metal yet, last I checked they only have a way to run it in a vm.

Possible on some devices.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by HeckFeck »

vxNsr wrote: post #188
KingOfCoders wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me - as a long term FF user and Mozilla critic - it looks like: Spend money on everything except browser development (>$5 billions!). Market share down the drain. Use the market share as an argument for a lost cause and spend money on everything except Browser development. Ladybird - a browser spearheaded by one person - will expose Mozilla of what it is.

>Ladybird What’s the deal with serenityOS? Can it be run on bare metal yet, last I checked they only have a way to run it in a vm.

The RPi ARM64 port is showing promise, they now have it booting to the desktop.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by zx8080 »

This will probably allow building a detailed model of every FF user (as Fakespot will be probably enabled by default). Not only browsing history (like in a failed Google Chrome FLoC attempt). Shopping interests, behavior on every page and so on. Even mouse movements and key press frequences.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by u320 »

kelnos wrote: post #210
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #181

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I never understood what geolocation was supposed to be within the context of of a desktop browser. If a website asks for this information, and I approve, what information is transmitted that couldn't be determined serverside via geoip?

GeoIP tells you at best what city someone is in, and even then, for smaller towns, will usually report the nearest large city, which could be quite a ways a way. Not to mention it's often even just flat-out wrong. VPNs and other things distort where you are. Sometimes a website might need (or at least think it needs) correct, fine-grained location information. I do suspect that most websites that ask for location inf…

In my experience, it will only reliably tell you what country you are in.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by Phrodo_00 »

EMM_386 wrote: post #221
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #127

You'd think that Mozilla has an excess of funding and has covered absolutely all needs in the browser space leading them to branch out like this... but the browser really needs a lot more hands and funding, I honestly can't make sense of this. And Fakespot: they present themselves as a company that focuses on detecting AI-generated content from human-generated content. It sounds like they've set out to play Whac-A-Mo…

> but the browser really needs a lot more hands and funding I had been using Firefox since 2002, when it was called Phoenix. I switched to a Chromium-based browser because the performance difference was noticable enough, and I am in the browser often enough, to finally throw in the towel and switch. They have a huge amount of money coming in from Google. Why is this going to acquisitions like this and not towards str…

How long ago did you switch? I also switched around 2010 or so, but since a few years the performance is definitely acceptable and I’ve been using it for like 6 years now

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by rasz »

kbd wrote: post #240
pfisch wrote: post #197

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So was apple once.

I wonder how things would be different if Microsoft never gave them that life-line when they needed it.

Microsoft never gave them any lifeline. Microsoft was caught shipping stolen Apple Quicktime code and quietly settled with Apple to the tune of $150mil and shipping Apple versions of Office/IE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company https://www.theregister.com/1998/10/29/microsoft_paid_apple_...

"the [QuickTime] patent dispute was resolved with cross-licence and significant payment to Apple." The payment was $150 million."

"Intel gave this code to Microsoft as part of a joint development program called Display Control Interface."

"Canyon admitted that it had copied to Intel code developed for and assigned to Apple. In September 1994, Apple's software was distributed by Microsoft in its developer kits, and in Microsoft's Video for Windows version 1.1d."

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by matthew-wegner »

vhcr wrote: post #258
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #181

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I never understood what geolocation was supposed to be within the context of of a desktop browser. If a website asks for this information, and I approve, what information is transmitted that couldn't be determined serverside via geoip?

Most MacBooks have a GPS antenna, so they will return pretty accurate location. And having a consistent API is important too, not having to care if your code is running on mobile or desktop is pretty nice.

What? Zero MacBooks have GPS inside.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by ibrahima »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #216
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #187

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Not GP, but Firefox runs on every OS I use, Safari does not. Chrome maybe does, but I doubt it.

What OS doesn't run chrome? BSD?

There are no Chrome builds for Linux on ARM, for instance. (There might be Chromium builds but that won't have the proprietary Google stuff like account sync.)

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by zx8080 »

It would too suspicious if Google directly buys Fakespot (a control on which allows to manipulate any review autencity). So Mozilla, which is totally funded from Google money, buys them.

A cookie consent on fakespot page states mainly Fakespot and Google cookies in a surprising manner. They give two options, but none to refuse any cookies:

- ok

- do not sell or share my personal information

How are they different? From reading details, I assume no difference.

There's no way to turn off any non-necessary cookies group (shared with Meta/Facebook (!) and Google).

It will be sad to stop using FF because of this integration.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Post by chillfox »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #181
ncann wrote: post #166

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Case in point: network ping spikes after using Geolocation that will persist until FF is closed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1711854

I never understood what geolocation was supposed to be within the context of of a desktop browser. If a website asks for this information, and I approve, what information is transmitted that couldn't be determined serverside via geoip?

Lol… geoip has never once gotten the state right for me. Best it does is get the country right.
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