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Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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I had a great relationship with one of my previous companies, my boss, and team. I gave them about 8 weeks notice. It was certainly appreciated. There was no reason to blindside them, nor were they going to can me early for putting in my notice.

I know plenty of people may do this and it not be appreciated, and that just might happen. I think it's good to at least consider if you have a fairly transparent relationship with your boss.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…

The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Genuine question; is this a US thing? I've never, ever seen this or heard of it happening. I don't think I've ever worked at a company that didn't state in the contract the notice period. I have seen companies decide they don't want that person on site anymore when someone quits…

You are not technically fired. At the company I worked for, you are immediately walked to the door and you will not be able do any more work for the company. You will get your two weeks pay.

I am not sure what happens when you try to give more than two weeks notice.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#283
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. This sounds like such a neat way to deal with it. I wonder if it's legally valid in my jurisdiction (in Sweden.) I have never heard of it but yet again, why not?

No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. You are however free to agree on an arbitrary date with them as your last day. It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane.

> It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane.

Clarification: I put in the body of the letter the effective date I will be leaving. Something like:

"My final day will be December 12, 2018."

The date in the letterhead has nothing to do with it.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But now when I "give notice" and they don't even let me try to work the next 2 weeks, I'm grateful. Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. In many states, if the employer attempts to move the termination date (without compensation), they will award wages until your resignation date... I've used this twice, and in both cases, I was sent home, but HR told the manager that any severance…

Dumb question: why would you get severance if you resigned?

For the right to call me about past business, and a guarantee I will help.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#285

No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…

The response to this is "What you mean is that I'm fired, and I will be contacting the unemployment office immediately."

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#286

Reading the comments in this thread really feeds into my bias that worker rights in the US are ... n't? I vividly remember a job posting from last year that listed '15 allowed sick days' as a benefit. What does that even mean? In Scandinavia, you set a mutual duration of notice for both parties when signing the initial contracts to start working. For IT jobs, the standard is 2-3 months. This gives both parties ample…

American worker rights are very low compared to Europe. But in certain industries, such as software, our benefits are in line with global averages.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#287

No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…

This doesn't seem correct to me. I've been in the industry coming up on 20 years, and I've never seen a company send someone home after putting in notice of resignation. Perhaps it happened and I didn't know about it, I can't rule that out, but I know that the majority of cases have not worked this way. It's difficult to imagine why they would do this, since it would remove all the cushion that 2+ week period would p…

> I've been in the industry coming up on 20 years, and I've never seen a company send someone home after putting in notice of resignation.

I have worked at a company that had a blanket policy of always doing this.

Let me be clear: it was a dumb policy. It resulted in employees waiting until their last day to tell the company that they were planning to leave. It created all kinds of havoc with the lack of knowledge transfer and handoff. And if it was intended to prevent exiting employee from taking malicious actions, it was completely ineffective at that since the employee would know about the policy and would choose not to disclose that they were leaving until after the head undertaken any malicious action.

But, I can say with some confidence that there are some tech companies that do this.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#288
I actually regret spending a lot of time documenting the system and fixing critical bugs before leaving one of my jobs. The owner was a jerk and ended up screwing us over on final pay. If I hadn't been so professional, the system would have failed within a few weeks and he would have paid dearly for us to fix it.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#290
>> How Much Notice Can You Give? >> It depends on a lot of things:

The list misses what's most important for me: depends on how good am I feeling at the company, or I appreciate its people. Then, I want to make it also easier to transfer knowledge or help them finish things that were dependent on me, etc. Especially on project management.

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