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That's why I narrowed it down to the socialized part, not the private part as that has next to no shortages.
Even the socialized part is very different in terms of load/structure/waiting times across the EU. Compare Sweden with Germany, for example.
I’m a doctor: Here’s what I found when I asked ChatGPT to diagnose my patients
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Re: I’m a doctor: Here’s what I found when I asked ChatGPT to diagnose my patients
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I didn't predict is so many AI boosters being so miffed at regular folks pointing out the obvious: a half-working system may be tremendously exciting to AI enthusiasts, but it's not that useful to society. Recently we've had all these people complaining of moving goalposts, when in fact most people never had goalposts for AI in the first place, and certainly never had goalposts that remotely resembled those that…
A half-working system is cute and useful when it recommends a pizza place you might like. But the same system is a menace to society when you tell it to drive a car or prescribe a drug to treat an illness or decide a person's prison sentence or protect a perimeter with lethal force. It's absolutely amazing that so many AI scientists don't seem to understand this distinction.
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#283This „study“ is missing a control group. He should have given his data also to some humans and see how they would do compared to ChatGPT.
There's also an implicit assumption that his ground-truth diagnoses are 100% correct.
"the “right” diagnosis — or at least the diagnosis that I believed to be right after complete evaluation and testing"
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#284Omg stop with this ridiculousness ffs. I get and love AI but some areas should be off limits: doctors, judges, airplane pilots, train conductors... Soon enough no one will even know how to write, just read, because ChatGPT will write everything.
I find this list very odd, especially given that we've had driverless train systems for a number of decades:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_driver-less_train_syst...
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> Doctors are so done. I would be curious to see the outcome if the patients entered the symptom descriptions themselves...
Anonymously without fear of being judged by a human who might be required to report dangerous or illegal situations... How many more people might be saved if they had to anonymously tell a computer the list of drugs they use regularly? Or to use the author's example, how many ectopic pregnancies might be resolved when the patient can freely admit they were raped by a family member?
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#286The tail end of this article, where the author talks about how many more patients he could see in his life if he had AI assistance, made me realize that part of healthcare cannot be solved by AI. The goal is not to see more patients; the goal is to help more patients get better. For a lot of patients who are frustrated and have not had their problems validated and have been to many doctors and seen no results or poor…
During my wife's second pregnancy she was admitted to hospital at 6 months due to some intense abdominal pain and inability to hold down food. The put her on PNT, pumped her stomach daily and run a bunch of tests. I logged every test. Weeks passed she was slipping away and the specialist had no real game plan. So I got another Doctor. A busy professor who travelled a lot and was clearly passionate about his field. Ye…
It's also pretty bad that they didn't consider any obstetric causes in their differential.
Thankfully, everything is OK now and that makes me happy.
Re: I’m a doctor: Here’s what I found when I asked ChatGPT to diagnose my patients
#287On the other hand, I have multiple minor issues where doctors have not been able to offer a diagnosis (they just say "I don't know") and ChatGPT has been able to offer multiple possible diagnoses.
"I don't know" is exactly what I want my docs to say when they don't know.
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#288One complaint he has is "It doesn't know to ask the right questions". Well, the prompt was to give diagnoses, not questions. Ask GPT for the follow up questions first, then the diagnoses. This is fascinating in that, because now the machine speaks human, we subconsciously ascribe human agency to it. This guy was instictively treating it like a colleague, who would naturally ask follow up questions unprompted. But you…
There's 0 (zero) chance I'd use a robot doctor over a (qualified, capable) human doctor. None.
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How does it matter to the doctor if the car accident was the cause of your issues?
I think some doctors don’t want to get involved with patients who are involved in litigation regarding the reason for their visit.
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Sounds more like you failed the Turing test rather than your friends chatbot passing it :)
The point was that people mis-use the term "Turing test" as "manages to trick people sometimes into thinking its a human". To quote the description from Wikipedia: > Turing proposed that a human evaluator would judge natural language conversations between a human and a machine designed to generate human-like responses. The evaluator would be aware that one of the two partners in conversation was a machine, and all pa…