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My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by roytam87 »

lurtbancaster wrote: post #272

Hey, Congratulations on your upgrade to Windows 7! Not 48 hours ago, I spoke highly of the benefits of Windows 7[1], as a user myself. It is absolutely possible to use Windows 7 reasonably securely, if you take the appropriate precautions(again, see my comment) > I can use the latest versions of Google Chrome Firefox? Yes. Chrome? No. Chromium 109 is the last version to support Windows 7. Here's the last working ungo…

K-Meleon's engine (i.e. Goanna 3.x) follows ArcticFox, which is trying to catch changes in Gecko 45 right now.

better try New Moon 28 which is XP compatible fork of Pale Moon.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by renonce »

TuringTest wrote: post #246
devnullbrain wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Or something has been compromised or exploited and you've had no idea because it's not something obvious like opening your CD-ROM drive automatically. This is addressed two paragraphs after the one you've quoted.

> This is addressed two paragraphs after the one you've quoted. And it's equally an incomplete assessment based on the same "This is fine" attitude. The computer could be participating in a botnet dedicated to bring down the network in hospitals or steal their sensitive medical data, and the author would never know.

Does using Windows 11 and keeping up with the latest updates as soon as they’re available prevent that from happening, compared to the author’s setup? Nothing would help if you click on the wrong download link for your favourite software in either case, and an innocent PDF has hacked Linus Tech Tips nevertheless. At least, by not keeping up to date you’re not opening yourself to new bugs.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by q845712 »

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #270
q845712 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure in the tech industry we all know the best practices and more or less try to follow them, but in general I've found that I often have hardware that keeps working long past the desire of the corporate overlords to support it: - a windows 2000 laptop that I only stopped using (a while) after win2k stopped getting security updates, and the linux i put on it didn't work very well. - a flip phone that was gloriously g…

> a flip phone that was gloriously good at doing the only two things it knew how to do (calls and sms) that I had to stop using because it stopped having compatible towers to talk to. That was the situation that finally prompted me to buy an iPhone.

same... :)

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by lurtbancaster »

roytam87 wrote: post #281
lurtbancaster wrote: post #272

Hey, Congratulations on your upgrade to Windows 7! Not 48 hours ago, I spoke highly of the benefits of Windows 7[1], as a user myself. It is absolutely possible to use Windows 7 reasonably securely, if you take the appropriate precautions(again, see my comment) > I can use the latest versions of Google Chrome Firefox? Yes. Chrome? No. Chromium 109 is the last version to support Windows 7. Here's the last working ungo…

K-Meleon's engine (i.e. Goanna 3.x) follows ArcticFox, which is trying to catch changes in Gecko 45 right now. better try New Moon 28 which is XP compatible fork of Pale Moon.

Do you perchance happen to also be roytam1 on the official k-meleon forums[1] and other places[2][3]?

If so, thank you so much for your work! Also please get https://piped.video working in k-meleon somehow.

If you're not that RoyTam, I rescind the previous thank you, and the request.

[1] http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,154431,157231,pa...

[2] https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/

[3] https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by t0bia_s »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #242
sylens wrote: post #225

So many problems with this piece >> My computer is also not some old rubbish. It has an Intel Core2Duo CPU with 4 Gb RAM. It was top of the line in 2009. Just because you had a top of the line PC in 2009 does not disqualify it from being 'old rubbish' in 2023. A Core2Duo is ancient at this point. >> The truth is I have never been hacked once in the eight years I have had this computer. Or something has been compromis…

That's the thing. I'm an it professional. I've had a computer since I was 6 (30years ago). Couple of decades ago, I could be reasonably confident that my pc was safe. Today? I take above average precautions but I would never claim that my system is not pwned on some level. That feels like arrogance and hubris (as well as a little bit of "I played Russian roulette several times and I'm fine! It's dangers are overblown…

Russian rullete is safe! All who participated can confirm it!

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by badsectoracula »

toastal wrote: post #152
badsectoracula wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is not a sensible or technically sound thing to do. It is purely irrational. It is not purely irrational, in fact it is spelled right out in the article why the author does so: he finds the Windows XP interface much better as a user than any other OS. I can't say i fully agree personally, but the core of the problem and really the reason i don't see any of this as irrational is that people do get used to the i…

Doesn't MATE or other FOSS DE try to emulate an XP-like feel but a bit more modernized?

From the mainstream stuff, XFCE might be close after some configuration (especially if you install some of the more Windows-like themes) but MATE/GNOME2 isn't really that XP-like. Trinity (KDE 3.x fork) would be closer though.

As mentioned in another reply IceWM would also be very close - at least compared to classic Windows - but that only gives you the taskbar and window themes.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by timbit42 »

causi wrote: post #253
qbasic_forever wrote: post #234

They should really try XFCE, it feels extremely similar to old-school windows (95/XP). You can even theme it to look unbelievably similar to old windows. I feel like them installing the latest Xubuntu with XFCE and Firefox with an ad blocker would let that old laptop run for many more years of service. Heck, the latest version of Wine probably runs all their old XP software just fine as-is too.

How does XFCE feel like old windows? To me it looks a lot more like OSX than Windows.

My XFCE looks like MacOS 9.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by timbit42 »

lmm wrote: post #29
thriftwy wrote: post #2

None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP and at least one (8) was a complete disaster, the shock waves from that catastrophe still rumbling around. By failing to reproduce that success, Microsoft has ceded most of the moral market share to Apple. Though, as a Linux user, every time I see a Mac desktop I can't resist noticing how often would it lock up and display that rotating "busy" mouse cur…

> None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP Huh? XP added nothing to 2000 except useless bling.

The only XP feature I miss in 2000 is the ability to align icons to a grid.
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