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ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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How long before we see a material impact on GDP? It seems like basically every knowledge worker can and will augment their workflows with this tech.

> It seems like basically every knowledge worker can and will augment their workflows with this tech. Alternately, 1/10 will be able to adapt to becoming cyborgs responsible for handling the same workload, while 9/10 get laid off

Not necessarily, increasing offer can increase demand. Look at the cheap burger you're having.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Yes, it's surprising me how quickly they're moving ahead. It's almost as if this is a plan of staggered launches since some year back coming into fruition. I'm not sure how else they could get weekly major announcements like this.

I'm wondering if they are just leapfrogging everyone by using the LLMs to write code faster.

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Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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How come I'm not seeing a buying spree of content companies and declaring that pulling their data is a nogo, since they want to feed their own model? What is everyone waiting for, really? Why everyone is frozen solid?

I don't think people are frozen solid. No one wants to build their own model. This ship has sailed: OpenAI has demonstrated a compelling offer and has a considerable advance. People are in awe and either waiting for the middlewares and simpler API which will make this accessible to their business need or already working on integrating with it. They don't want to build competitors to ChatGPT. They want to be able to u…

Of course they want and will.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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How come I'm not seeing a buying spree of content companies and declaring that pulling their data is a nogo, since they want to feed their own model? What is everyone waiting for, really? Why everyone is frozen solid?

no one around me can imagine that people would not google stuff anymore and use a chatbot instead, so why should they be worried about their business that is driven by web traffic from google? all the while they stop googling on their own and only using chatGPT personally. I think its a combination of not being able to imagine that this giant can fall like previous economic giants, in a rather short time, and things…

ChatGPT is slow, its usecase is quite narrow, average ppl do not give a fuck/doesn't help them that much, hype will die down. Google will be fine, they have their own solution and they have the biggest surface area where they can advertise their stuff. Just think back when chrome launched and they advertised it on the search front page. And their browser market share just went up and up. So they can only fuck this up and that would be quite a feat.

I see a lot of opportunities, but I don't get it why people are not buying up CC companies. There are a lot of good buys out there for not so much money. And there are companies which gobble up so much user input and their sole purpose is to pull out as much information from real humans as possible, so the only sane explanation to their existence is that they had AI in mind decades before AI was in the headlines.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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What is a feed forward network? Is that anything like the current-state and next-state functions for representing finite state machines?

No, a feed forward network is just a neural network which doesn't contain cycles, in contrast to recurrent neural networks, which do. A system that can't perform cyclical behavior is not Turing complete, since we know that it will halt. Large language models are not recurrent networks because they don't contain cycles (the whole point of the transformer architecture is to mix position information with the tokens so t…

Yeah that is a neat hack one of the comments mentioned. Also if a model of computation that is not Turing complete can apparently do English, then what does that say about the computational complexity of English, this piques my curiosity.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Felt a bit underwhelming the example of communication between them, if it will be just that way. Wolfram Alpha is good, but doesn't hold a candle to how ChatGPT process and understand natural language. That ChatGPT send verbatim the end user input to Wolfram Alpha seem a small step forward over going to Wolfram Alpha and do the very same question. Now, if the output of ChatGPT is in the Wolfram Alpha "language", expr…

I put it to you, that GPT can translate a user's free form input into Wolfram's language much better than Wolfram ever could.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Please anyone willing to answer as if you might be speaking to a golden retriever: How important is a "lead" in this space? I have been comparing ChatGPT and Bard a lot the last two days because this is all very fascinating, and from my datapoint-of-one perspective, it feels like ChatGPT is way, way ahead. Then I start to wonder is this because ChatGPT captivated our attention so much the last few months that they've…

I don't think OpenAI's lead is holding Google back. Companies are held back by their own mentalities, and newer companies have fewer restrictions. As an example, Google supposedly had better text-to-image models than DALL-E/Midjourney/etc, but didn't release them because they "reinforced harmful stereotypes". It's also probably holding back on LLM because it doesn't want to harm its search cash cow, just like Kodak d…

Do you have a source for that bit about the woke "reinforced harmful stereotypes"?

Curious, as I've seen a few statements along the same lines, but nothing concrete yet. Very keen to know more.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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no one around me can imagine that people would not google stuff anymore and use a chatbot instead, so why should they be worried about their business that is driven by web traffic from google? all the while they stop googling on their own and only using chatGPT personally. I think its a combination of not being able to imagine that this giant can fall like previous economic giants, in a rather short time, and things…

ChatGPT is slow, its usecase is quite narrow, average ppl do not give a fuck/doesn't help them that much, hype will die down. Google will be fine, they have their own solution and they have the biggest surface area where they can advertise their stuff. Just think back when chrome launched and they advertised it on the search front page. And their browser market share just went up and up. So they can only fuck this up…

> average ppl do not give a fuck/doesn't help them that much

I shared this opinion no more than a month ago. Then I decided to keep a ChatGPT-4 tab open for a week and lean on it for questions. I'm around 3x more productive. It's wild.

Anyone that uses a computer for work will benefit from this technology, or be upended by it.

I agree though, Google has the ability to catch up. But will they? They're a big boring company now. Slow and risk averse.

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