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Post by unshavedyak »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #132
akavi wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is unlike self-driving and crypto, LLMs are providing value to people _today_. In my personal life, GPT4 is a patient interlocutor to ask about nerdy topics that are annoying to google (eg, yesterday I asked it "What's the homologue of the caudofemoralis in mammals?", and a long convo about the subtleties of when it is and isn't ok to use "gè" as the generic classifier in Mandarin.) Professionally, it'…

Let's see where it is in a year... People thought Alexa, Siri, etc. would change everything. Amazon sunk 14 billion into Alexa alone. And yet it never generated any money as a business for them. ChatGPT is just an evolution of those tools and interactions. For your professional use how do you know it's giving you non-buggy code? I would be very skeptical of what it provides--I'm not betting my employment on its quali…

The thing is people wanted Alexa/Siri/Assistant to be what ChatGPT is today.

You're seeing the hype that all those Assistants drummed up for years paying off for a company which just ate their lunch. I wouldn't even consider buying Siri/Alexa/Assistant, yet here i am with a $20/m sub and i'd pay incrementally more depending on the features/offerings.

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Post by huijzer »

softwaredoug wrote: post #272
huijzer wrote: post #266

Based on the speed at which OpenAI is shipping new products and assuming that they use their own technology, I'm starting to get more and more convinced that their technology is a superpower. Timeline of shipping by them (based on https://twitter.com/E0M/status/1635727471747407872?s=20 ): DALL·E - July '22 ChatGPT - Nov '22 API's 66% cheaper - Aug '22 Embeddings 500x cheaper while SoTA - Dec '22 ChatGPT API. Also 10x…

Their superpower is having a tech giant owning 49% of them, willing to drop deep deep money, without the obvious payoff. :) I also wonder to what extent their staffing numbers reflect reality. How much of Azure's staffing has been put on OpenAI projects? That's probably an actual reflection of the real cost of this thing.

> How much of Azure's staffing has been put on OpenAI projects?

Great point!

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Post by wincy »

rescripting wrote: post #260
worldsayshi wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no way to defend against a superior hostile actor That's part of my reasoning. That's why we should make sure that we have built a non-hostile relationship with AI before that point.

Probably futile. An AGI by definition is capable of self improvement. Given enough time (maybe not even that much time) it would be orders of magnitude smarter than us, just like we're orders of magnitude smarter than ants. Like an ant farm, it might keep us as pets for a time but just like you no longer have the ant farm you did when you were a child, it will outgrow us.

Maybe we’ll get lucky and all our problems will be solved using friendship and ponies.

(Warning this is a weird read, George Hotz shared it on his Twitter awhile back)

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62074/friendship-is-optimal

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Post by qgin »

swyx wrote: post #213

i think people aren't appreciating it's ability to run -and execute- Python. IT RUNS FFMPEG https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1638971232443076609?s=20 IT RUNS FREAKING FFMPEG. inside CHATGPT. what. is. happening. ChatGPT is an AI compute platform now.

I don't like the future anymore

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Post by raydev »

celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

> I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins

You're thinking too long term. Based on my Twitter feed filled with AI gold rush tweets, the goal is to build something/anything while hype is at its peak, and you can secure a a few hundred k or million in profits before the ground shifts underneath you.

The playbook is obvious now: just build the quickest path to someone giving you money, maybe it's not useful at all! Someone will definitely buy because they don't want to miss out. And don't be too invested because it'll be gone soon anyway, OpenAI will enforce stronger rate limits or prices will become too steep or they'll nerf the API functionality or they'll take your idea and sell it themselves or you may just lose momentum. Repeat when you see the next opportunity.

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Post by ridewinter »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

Anything preventing Bard/etc from using these plugins as well?

Would be nice to keep the ecosystem open.

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Post by fandorin »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

I was considering doing the same (giving notice) and I'm doing similar things as you (product mgmt). What's your plan "to focus your career on what's happening in this field"?

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Post by qgin »

endisneigh wrote: post #159

I see a lot of positive sentiment and hype, but ultimately unless they own the phone ecosystem they will lose in the end, imho. In a year Apple and Google will trivially create something equivalent. Those who control the full stack (hardware, software and ecosystem) will be the true winners.

I am curious how Apple will approach it. They have historically valued 100% certainty with Siri above all else, even if it means having an extremely limited feature set. If there is even a tiny chance it might do the wrong thing, they don't even enable the capability.

I don't see how they can ignore this though. But at the same time it goes against all of Apple's culture to allow the kind of uncertainty that comes out of LLMs.

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Post by grumple »

impulser_ wrote: post #191

Maybe this is just me, but the only thing useful in their example is that it creates a Instacart shopping cart for a recipe. You can ask both Bard and ChatGPT to give you a suggestion for a vegan restaurant and a recipe with calories and they both provide results. The only thing missing is the calories per item but who cares about that. Most of the time it would be better to Google vegan restaurants and recipes becau…

Agree, those examples are not great. You could ask existing home devices the same thing. Pretty sure you can ask them to order things for you too.

But I do find it intriguing.

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Post by fudged71 »

impulser_ wrote: post #191

Maybe this is just me, but the only thing useful in their example is that it creates a Instacart shopping cart for a recipe. You can ask both Bard and ChatGPT to give you a suggestion for a vegan restaurant and a recipe with calories and they both provide results. The only thing missing is the calories per item but who cares about that. Most of the time it would be better to Google vegan restaurants and recipes becau…

Maybe it was a poor example but you might be missing the point a little bit. By personalizing the prompt you can get potentially super high quality recommendations on filters that aren't even available in those apps. "I just dropped my kids off at soccer practice and I need something light and easy, what would Stanley Tucci order? give me an album and wine pairing and close the garage door"
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