I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.
Will the QMK based keyboard available on Framework Laptop 13?
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#282I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.
Is this what you showed Linus last week? :)
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps it's not updated yet, but I don't see AMD in that list.
In the blog post they indicate that they will be supported: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-gen-in... Optimized for Linux We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 will work fantastically out of the box for both the 13th Gen Intel® Core™ and AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series models. We have thorough setup and troubleshooting guides and will contin…
Well... That was the last hurdle I waiting for before pre-ordering the AMD mainboard as an upgrade to my current intel 11th gen laptop.
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#284Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.
There is always going to be a chorus about something. Power users are impossible to please because they all have strong opinions but not the same opinions. People will still want different screen resolutions, aspect ratios, keyboard layouts, etc. Now that AMD is available people will want particular CPU SKUs. It will never end. I wish Framework luck, because they are targeting the pickiest userbase that exists.
They’re targeting that user base in exactly the right way: give me options, get out of my way, and let me do it.
Too many platforms lock users into decisions they think are best for them, or worse, that they think are best for the company making said platform. It’s refreshing to be given not only options, but options I actually want.
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#285As petty as this may sound, I really don't like it when laptops arrange their modifier keys as Control-Fn-Super-Meta. My Macbook has the layout Fn-Control-Meta-Super, which makes Emacs very nice to use. Every time I use a "standard PC keyboard" or Windows laptop, I can barely use Emacs because it just feels uncomfortable having to stretch my pinky as far as possible just to hit a key. I know what some may be thinking…
Which makes Apple wrong, my left pinky expects control there ;-p imo (even though I remap capslock to control). As for Emacs on Mac, I was forever closing the window instead of cutting since ALT and Command are in the wrong order (again for me). I now use an external keyboard which helps.
Heh, I guess old habits die hard. I first began using Emacs on a Mac keyboard, so now I am too used to it.
I guess my rant is more of a wish for Framework or some other manufacturer to offer this kind of layout, without needing a software solution like xmodmap. The moment Framework sells keyboards with modifier keys in the "correct" spot is the moment I'm ditching my Macbook.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
As one of the QMK Firmware maintainers, it's great to see you're going ahead with the customisable side of things even on the input side. Might I suggest engaging with QMK early so that we can avoid the usual manufacturer "hey can you merge this, we've shipped already and forgot to raise the PR until now"?
Absolutely! We’ve been chatting with Jack Humbert, and he’s actually been prototyping an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16. There are likely some photos of it in press articles about the event today.
Is there a chance you could have individual scissor switch key modules made for DIY ergonomic layouts on a custom PCB?
The height limitations of the 16" laptop are too low for low-profile discrete mechanical switches.
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#287I wish I could build and deploy iOS apps from Linux on these things.
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#288Now just need a good trackpoint and no trackpad and I'll finally have a replacement for this modified X230.
IBM's trackpoint patent expired in 2017, I have no idea why there hasn't been a custom keyboard with a trackpoint out yet. Seems like that would be the first thing hacker-types would add.
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#289I wonder what's the width of the 16" version. Too bad that input configurability doesn't extend to the touchpad. I would love to be able to pick one with three physical buttons. Well, at least I could have a laptop without the numberpad.
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#290Seems to be down or slow. Do we have an option to add a keyboard with a Trackpoint?
IBM's trackpoint patent expired in 2017. I have no idea why there hasn't been a custom keyboard with a trackpoint out yet. Seems like that would be the first thing hacker-types would add.